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Gunman Kills Five Women In Chicago Store
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-3-2008 | Tim Shipman

Posted on 02/02/2008 7:46:53 PM PST by blam

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To: Squantos
We always hang our heads and then set our jaws tight at this sort of news. Even my youngsters comment that if only a single armed person had been there, maybe the bloody murderer wouldn't have killed as many people...or killed NOBODY at all!

But nooooo....they'll declare that guns are evil and the murderer will be declared misunderstood because of a "disadvantaged childhood" or some such crap as that.

What do we suppose Cain killed Abel with? It had to be a rock or a stick. Perhaps he murdered him with his bare hands. We do know that the people at the time had no intention of passing some stupid law outlawing sticks and rocks! In fact, Cain KNEW that people would want to KILL him! ...which is why God put a "mark" him so people wouldn't.

The hearts of people who commit crimes such as these can't be changed outwardly....by changing laws. They have to be changed inwardly. ...and until that time, I'll keep carrying my Series 80 Colt .45ACP!
161 posted on 02/04/2008 4:35:18 PM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: hiredhand

Good POST !

Focus on front post !......LOL !


162 posted on 02/04/2008 4:45:06 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
That's right! Focus on the FRONT post!
163 posted on 02/04/2008 5:41:49 PM PST by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: Squantos

“357SIG, 125gr GDHP”

What are the grains and speed on that round?


164 posted on 02/04/2008 7:47:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee; hiredhand; Lurker

Best one page data source on the 357SIG caliber.......

http://greent.com/40Page/ammo/357/357SIG-advoc.htm

The commercial SPEER 125gr GDHP I use /carry has proven itself for me with data presented and visual evidence at the range on materials including cars, structures, and ballistic gelatin etc .......

I highly suggest the following if ya go too this caliber.

Get a Glock 35 in 40 Short & Wimpy, go too lone wolfe and get their replacement barrels, rifled so ya CAN SHOOT cast lead reloads safely in the following calibers. 9mm and 357SIG caliber.

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/

Albeit I carry a Glock 31 I bought these spare barrels from lone wolf(e) to build a package that allows me to have 4 different calibers for one frame and 2 slide and 3 magazine type package.

I have the advantage arms .22 adapter slide barrel and magazines for plinking and general training new shooters.

I have a 9mm barrel and magazines albeit for plinking a 9mm will feed from a 40/357SIG mag but is not reliable for working gun or self defense so get the 9mm mags when ya get the 9mm barrel.

357SIG barrel

Thus ya have:

Basic Glock 35 in 40SW
40/357 spare magazines are common dual caliber
9mm spare magazines
advantage arms .22 slide assembly and magazines for the G35
spare barrel in 357SIG
spare barrel in 9MM
9MM, 40SW,357SIG and .22 ammunition

I like the little package I put together. Allows the basic G35 platform to be used with many calibers, reloads for the 9mm & 357SIG and even the 40SW IF ya want to buy that rifled barrel as well later.

Hope I didn’t cloud up the main goal of such a package for that one frame with my description.

The Glock 35 is identical pretty much to a standard 1911A1 in size !

Stay safe !


165 posted on 02/05/2008 5:31:16 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

Wow, impressive page at your link! I always like bottlenecked pistol cartridges, I’ve had Tokarevs and CZs. Like it said, a 9mm bullet is going to slide into a .40 chamber EVERY TIME.

Did you get a .40 Wolf barrel with threads for accessories? That would be a good thing to do. The .40 is easily subsonic if you want it to be.


166 posted on 02/05/2008 5:38:15 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

No....all my suppressors are 9mm or 45acp.

Nuff for .........good point though !

I have shot or carried just about everything at some point in my life and the 357SIG is gonna get a fair shake from me till new and improved shows up.

But if you told me that I was gonna go up against human aggressors triple threat today and asked what I would carry for that solution in a “handgun”.......I’d go get my 1911A1 in 45acp back out of the safe as that is what I have trained and carried the most with. Memorymatic skills with a good stopping round and a launcher I am familiar with wins everyday with a handgun used in sh*t’n go blind times !


167 posted on 02/05/2008 6:19:28 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Cobra64

The issue isn’t wether the mod is fat or not. The mod is human. Unlike the inhuman scum that post fat jokes when there have been five people killed in a tragedy. So what I’m saying is that you are subhuman compared to the mod. You make fat jokes when people have died. You are sick. Get help.


168 posted on 02/06/2008 6:29:13 AM PST by violet_yoshi
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To: violet_yoshi
So what I’m saying is that you are subhuman compared to the mod.

I notice inconsistency / hypocracy in your remarks.

BTW, my wife's sister is "fat." And she admits that she is fat. I'm skinny and admit that I'm skinny... and bald too, and wear glasses, and short... and just turned 58, so I'm old.

169 posted on 02/06/2008 9:37:09 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: violet_yoshi

now the stupid fundamentalist Kansas church that pickets at funerals of American soldiers ! Is planning to demonstrate at the funerals of two of the victims of the Lane Bryant massacre in Tinley Park.


170 posted on 02/07/2008 7:46:46 AM PST by DvdMom ( Drew Peterson Belongs In Jail Along With Nifong)
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To: Mad-Margaret

The stupid EVIL fundamentalist Westboro Baptist Church Kansas church that pickets at funerals of American soldiers ! Is planning to demonstrate at the funerals of two of the victims of the Lane Bryant massacre in Tinley Park.

THE EVIL westboro church say That it is because of the kind of customers that go to Lane Bryant. And that in some cases they may have an objection to some of the clientele.”

Specifically, transsexuals and transvestites may shop there.....


171 posted on 02/07/2008 7:49:36 AM PST by DvdMom ( Drew Peterson Belongs In Jail Along With Nifong)
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To: DvdMom
"Westboro Baptist Church Kansas church that pickets at funerals of American soldiers ! Is planning to demonstrate at the funerals of two of the victims of the Lane Bryant massacre in Tinley Park."

Any info on when? Where?

172 posted on 02/10/2008 7:21:41 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: spunkets

already happened :(

but the police & firetrucks blocked the skumbag protesters by using their own vehicles as a barricade so the families wouldn’t see the skum !

there was an article about it in the Chicago Suntimes paper & the idiots already did it :(


173 posted on 02/10/2008 8:00:23 PM PST by DvdMom ( Drew Peterson Belongs In Jail Along With Nifong)
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To: jjw
Gov. Ryan of Illinois commuted 167 death sentences serving various sentences. They remained in jail. Four of the inmates on death row were pardoned and released for reasons other than the blanket commutation.

Ryan, a Republican, did not run for re-election, and is in the pokey himself now, the last I heard.

His gubernatorial successor, a liberal Democrat, is corrupt and should be in jail, also. But he'll probably be re-elected because Illinois is overwhelmingly blue now and a death wish rules supreme in the Land of Lincoln.

The unions, Chicago limousine liberals, Jesse Jackson's thugs and Mayor Daley's well-oiled machine run the state.

Of course, apres Ryan came le deluge......and the Illinois GOP party is presently weak and disorganized.

Unfortunately, the party's only potential savior, Republican Mike Ditka, doesn't want to run for any office despite the prodding of his still-loyal fans, LOL.

Leni

174 posted on 02/10/2008 8:21:41 PM PST by MinuteGal (Mitt and Fred are Still My Guys!)
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To: Mad-Margaret

I posted this on one of the earlier threads, but as some of you missed those threads, can’t find them, or think they might have been pulled, I’ll post it again, FYI:

This is supposedly what happened. He bound the women in duct tape and shot them execution style. The one woman that survived was grazed in the neck by the bullet, and then played dead. She got a real good look at him and has been helping the police with description, etc. She and her whole family are in hiding under police protection at the moment. The guy had dreadlocks with beads interwoven in one strand of dreadlock that hung down by his face. This leads me to believe it was probably just a robbery and the guy wasn’t a Muzzie, as Muzzie converts wouldn’t be sporting dreadlocks with beads hanging down. They have to live clean.

Also, my best friend who lives in Tinley Park, says that Tinley is right next to a relatively poor south suburb called Matteson, IL, which is approx. 65% black (pop. approx 12,500). Tinley Park (predominantly white) has experienced a boom in new housing and new businesses (my friend lives in one of the new housing communities, very nice). Along with this has been a big increase in strip malls, and the one where the shootings took place is very close to where my friend lives, she goes there all the time. In fact, she told me she was on her way to the mall when the shootings took place. She heard about it on the radio and obviously didn’t go, thank goodness.

Anyway, back to Matteson. She told me there has been an increase in robberies in the area of residents coming over from Matteson to the wealthier Tinley Park to rip people and businesses off. Now, no one knows for sure where this guy came from, but my friend has her suspicions. Will update if I hear anything more.

Oh, one more thing. A new mosque (with an ugly yellow-gold dome, I’ve seen it) has been built in Orland Park, IL, which is on the northern side of Tinley Park (Matteson is a couple of towns south of Tinley). There was much resistance to it being built, but the Muzzies won out. It is only about a short mile from where my friend lives. There has been a great influx of Muzzies now moving to within the nearby area of the new mosque. My friend’s neighborhood (quite high priced homes) has had a bunch of Muzzies moving into it, much to her dismay, and a Muzzie family has moved in next door to her recently. She is not a happy camper, as already one of their male sons has caused her some problems. She also has two daughters, 12 and 14 whom she worries about. There have been about 5 Muzzie families that have moved in just on her block. The whole area will probably turn Muzzie within the next 10 years. She plans on moving a few years from now before her property values take a dive. Even then, she may end up having to sell to a Muzzie if she wants to sell at all. Now, this is an upper class neighborhood of Tinley. Interesting. What’s kind of funny, a block from where she lives there is a huge fundamentalist church with a ton of churchgoers. That could be interesting, lots of Muzzies and lots of Fundies. Let the religious battles begin. Hope this gives you some background to the story.


175 posted on 02/10/2008 10:18:18 PM PST by flaglady47 (Space for rent: seeking new candidate tagline that will last more than 1 week)
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To: DvdMom
Thanks. Been busy, so I didn't notice the phelps barfettes were going to show. I would have made an effort to show and oppose them. A sketch of the perp was released.


176 posted on 02/11/2008 8:52:15 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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