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1 posted on 02/02/2008 1:06:00 PM PST by exit82
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Bravo!!!!


31 posted on 02/02/2008 1:35:15 PM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: exit82
Well said FRiend

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36 posted on 02/02/2008 1:45:21 PM PST by expatguy (Support Conservative Blogging - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: exit82

You’ve spoken my mind. Thank you. I, too, will vote for Mitt Romney.


42 posted on 02/02/2008 1:52:58 PM PST by RoadTest ( "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:" - L 12:51)
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To: exit82
'nuff said.

Well written, I couldn't agree more.

43 posted on 02/02/2008 1:53:34 PM PST by skeeter
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To: exit82
"We conservatives always had a home in the Republican Party. "

I think that it is time for us to go out into the world and make our own way now. I, as others, feel like the Republican Party has left me. It's time for a Conservative Party.

Exit82, you have written an eloquent post, and you have described very many of the same feelings that I have- Thank you for posting this.

I agree that the first priority is to dump the turncoat McCain. Then, we need to overhaul the Republican Party, or build another from scratch, without Olympia Snow, Michael Bloomberg, Rudy Guilianni, Lincoln Chaffee, Arlen Specter, Susan Collins, and Christopher Shays. I don't have anything in common with those people.

If McCain wins the Super Tuesday, how far will he get if the money dries up? This is in our power. We can "starve" him, and the RNC out, then maybe we can somehow force a brokered convention. Let the illegals finance them.

45 posted on 02/02/2008 1:55:46 PM PST by matthew fuller (None of the Above- 2008)
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To: exit82

Couldn’t have said it better myself..The end of the USA is in sight..All we can do is pray the GOOD LORD will be with us..


46 posted on 02/02/2008 1:57:58 PM PST by 3IDVET ( What will you do when a terrorist TELLS you Convert or Die!!!!)
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To: exit82

Couldn’t have said it better myself..The end of the USA is in sight..All we can do is pray the GOOD LORD will be with us..


50 posted on 02/02/2008 2:03:42 PM PST by 3IDVET (Ask a liberal, What will you do when a terrorist TELLS you Convert or Die!!!!)
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To: exit82
Fantastic thought piece. Unfortunately we are at the same penultimate point as the old atomic doomsday clock. It is one minute to midnight. Of all of the possible choices on the GOP side, with all of their attributes and flaws, only one remains who has any chance against McCain. Romney is not the first or second or even third choice of most conservatives, but a dispersal of our votes among several opponents of McCain, will be the end of us. For that reason, Romney is the only logical choice left for all who want to defeat McCain.
51 posted on 02/02/2008 2:06:25 PM PST by Truth29
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Excellent analysis. Maybe the checked-pants, country-club GOP Establishment will get the shock of it’s life on Tuesday, if, and it’s a big “if”, the voters clear the fog from their brains and vote for Mitt.


52 posted on 02/02/2008 2:07:01 PM PST by Signalman
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To: exit82
but also, when you add the McCain vote (36 percent) to the now-withdrawn Rudy Giuliani vote (15 percent), you see a shift: A majority of Republican voters are straying outside the ever-pure conservative base

There it is in a simple nutshell.
The RNC and the GOP K street boys have wanted to marginalize the conservatives for some time now so that they can get on with the agenda.

I’m certain that they thought that they were a bit farther along the last year or so, what with all of the creeping big spending, entitlement bills being passed and signed, and so they went for the home run - McCain/Kennedy amnesty and the permanent changing of America into a multi cultural part of a Global entity that needs to allow the free flow of inexpensive labor and manufacturing wherever it is best utilized.

Now this does indeed lower most to the lowest common denominator, but that is of little concern to any of the people who believe that nationalism is secondary to the realignment of order being crammed down our throats.

And it is.
Why, McCain was furious when a college proposed a bill to make English the national language.

Rove had stated regarding the immigration bills that, “Conservatives will follow” and he was correct, but premature.

This election will be proof to the GOP elite that they no longer need to factor in the conservatives, especially if they can get some of the new hispanic voters with more socialist give aways that are certain to follow.

We have been marginalized if McCain is nominated, and we had best deal with that reality.
I will not vote for McCain over anyone at all.
I am seeing the indications of a 57 seat Senate and a stronger democrat seating in the house and that is enough to pass just about anything that hillary wants.

Should the democrats be obtuse enough to nominate Obama - which I do not predict - then the paradigm is changed, because, unlike so many starry eyed forecasters, I believe that Obama can be handily beaten in the general, due to a number of intrinsic factors.

IMO, the GOP learned absolutely nothing from 06, seeing it as more or less a setback or speed bump to their plans, but nothing that has caused them to change plans.

So one group or the other is wrong. - Either the GOP McCain/Kennedy types can be ascendant in this country without us, or they cannot.

They can be, and will be, but only if we let them.

In fact, McCain would not rule out signing an amnesty bill, resorting to mumbling nonsense at the pointed question.

It is up to us to understand this dynamic being played out and to plan for it rather than deny that this clear trend, does in fact, exist.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962598/posts?page=9#9

55 posted on 02/02/2008 2:09:35 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: exit82

A very well thought out and brilliantly constructed piece.

Thank you for your effort.


57 posted on 02/02/2008 2:24:04 PM PST by Gator113 (McCain will lead our country....into the valley of darkness, with Hillary holding our hand.)
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To: exit82
I too am a fiftyish male with the same values and memories as the writer.

During the 60s, many Americans felt disenfranchised, for various reasons, from the political climate and with the state of our country. This group moved to the Western shores of Australia, among other locations. Today, I find myself at the same crossroad.

Try as I might, I can not seem to change the direction of my political party of choice. I can not, in all honesty, vote for McCain because I can not erase the memory of him standing next to Ted Kennedy as they tried to sell Amnesty to, what they considered, a gullible and submissive populace.

I will, at the end of this summer, join my politically discontent predecessors by retiring to the same Western Pacific region.

Many will call such a decision a sell-out and it might be. The Republican party, which I have steadfastly supported, has sold its soul to the highest bidder. It hurts to see this proud country being transformed into a socialist third world country. If ever there was a time to support a true alternative party in this country, it is now. Many people will say supporting a third party will be a wasted vote and give the election to the likes of Hillary or Obama. To this I say so what. The alternative is a candidate who is in lockstep with the most liberal socialist element of the Democratic party, John McCain.

I will always remain loyal and supportive of and to the America I remember, the America of my past.

63 posted on 02/02/2008 2:31:26 PM PST by WesternPacific (I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils!)
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Two uncles in the war, Father in a defense plant? Who are you? Me? I’m been around a bit longer than you so it’s really worse for me. We will not pass this way again. The Republic is lost, I fear. We will have a catastrophic “event” and have the choice of security or freedom. The choice has already been made.


65 posted on 02/02/2008 2:36:10 PM PST by vortec94
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To: exit82

Well written.

I do not agree, but it is a very worthy effort.


66 posted on 02/02/2008 2:37:17 PM PST by djf (...and dying in your bed, many years from now, did you donate to FR?)
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To: exit82

Great essay. Unfortunately, it’s too late to stop the car from going off the road now. Stay alert and be ready to jump for your life when the tires start coming off.


67 posted on 02/02/2008 2:50:24 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: exit82
Thanks for an excellent statement that sums up the situation - and the dilemma facing political conservatives today.

There is a reason why so many of us are absolutely opposed to a McCain nomination for president and refuse to vote for him under any circumstances, even if that means a good chance of Hillary Clinton winning the presidency. I bitterly resent having a man like John McCain, who, by his words and deeds sneers at my principles and convictions, like national sovereignty and the right of unhindered political speech during an election cycle, offered up as the Republican candidate for the highest office in the land, making him, if elected president, in theory, the most powerful man on the planet. That is simply unacceptable.

Unlike the stalwart Ann Coulter, who said on national television (Hannity and Colmes) that she would 'campaign for Hillary' if McCain was nominated, I won't go that far. However, I do refuse to vote for McCain, even if that means 'wasting' my vote on some minor-party candidate in the general election in November. However, as Yogi Berra once said: "it ain't over till its over". February 5th is probably our last best chance to 'stop' McCain. That being the case, I'm voting for Mitt Romney. He may be my distant second choice (I was a Fred Thompson supporter) but he isn't John McCain and he has a fair shot if we back him with our primary votes

As with the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill, we can still make a difference and stop the GOP elites from foisting a barely disguised liberal on us that has small chance to win the nation election and whose presidency would hardly differ, except in scope, from what a Marxist like Hillary Clinton or Barack Hussein Obama would do, no matter what he says now.

70 posted on 02/02/2008 3:08:31 PM PST by Jim Scott (Time Heals)
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Excellent read, thank you.
Not just a different time, it was a different world.
Since we don’t have a candidate we might as well ponder how we got here & where we’re going.
Both parties think that America is just an undifferentiated landmass in the northern hemisphere and are clueless to how special it is and how important to the world that it remains that way.
To those who think fred or hunter were the answer but we got screwed, all I can say is Fred & McCain are good friends, hunter endorsed huckabee and romney was endorsed by bush 41.
Where’s bob dole when you need him?
Still, I know lots of good Americans who have great values but get their opinions froom the MSM. Most Americans don’t want to be political, they have lives. Used to be you could get away with that, that is part of what made us great.
Thanks to libs everything is political....food, sex, entertainment, education, religion,etc,etc. Makes it pretty hard to stay up on and seethe big picture.
We’ve been facing an inner threat from communism for almost 70 years and they have made tremendous in-roads. Jimmy carter did more damage in 4 years than Kruschev could have done in a 100 and it looks like we’re going there again.
But Reagan was more than just the anti-carter, he spent 25 years in the wilderness sharpening his ideology, so I’m not sure we can count on that repeating.
The libs always overplay their hand and I think that’s our last best hope. When the coming generation sees for themselves what a crock they were fed about global warming and appeasement, maybe the scales will fall from their eyes.
Or maybe fat people will stage a revolution when they’re banned from restaurants and grocery stores. Start arming fat people now!


71 posted on 02/02/2008 3:12:53 PM PST by Arkady
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I see now that we are the enemy to our own party's leaders...

This has been clear for some time, yet most did not want to believe the evidence before their eyes. Your post was well thought out and well reasoned. Very nicely done. The emergence of the Kadema Party in Israel is a model for what is going on with the leadership in the pubbie party. At least IMHO. Also IMHO Tuesday will not decide this. We have been out maneuvered, out thought, and out fought. Look at what was done to Tom Delay. The gang of 14. McCain Finegold, et. al. And we were taken by surprise that our own people betrayed us and we were rolled. I hope we hook em good Tuesday. I think we will and I am looking forward to the results.

77 posted on 02/02/2008 3:47:53 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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I am 52 years old, and I thank you for stating my innermost feeling far better than I could have myself.

I can only think that it is simply not the same country that it was back then.

Back then, our parents were the age that we are now. Since then they have passed from the scene by either passing away or have been retired for a couple of decades, and all the snot-nose kids from the 60’s have grown up and have been running things for a while now.

Not to mention there are more people now (300 million vs perhaps 150 million or so back then), World War Two was still relatively recent history, and our industrial capacity, standard of living and potential for economic growth was at it’s height.

Now we have an economy that has been changed by “global economy”, lower overall wages and lowered standard of living but with higher costs and more taxes and more rules and regulations that cost us.

We have a large part of the populace that prefers security over freedom, so we have Socialism and the “iron fist in a velvet glove” of the “protective” and over-controlling ever present nanny state.

I do think things go in cycles. I believe that we are heading on a downward slope. A future generation may find freedom, but only after this Socialist period has run its course...


78 posted on 02/02/2008 4:02:05 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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McCain as a candidate will be a disaster. The Republican establishment knows this. But they don't care, because the goal is not to win this election. It is to remove us from the political table, and for them to join with their Democrat brothers in the march toward an America subsevient to global interests. Sovereignty is treated as a quaint, outmoded concept, even by many Republican governors who are pushing the globaloney nonsense that will cripple this nation.

We will see. I think Hillary knows this, Obama doesn't know this (yet) and both will be obvious, out of the closet One Worlders. I think McCain is a literal Manchurian Candidate, (what happened in the Hanoi Hilton?) ushered into office as an insurance policy if the Puppetmasters underestimated the percentage of independents/conservatives left in the country. Either way, they win.

79 posted on 02/02/2008 4:22:39 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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