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Free Republic's excerpt and link list ^ | Feb 1, 2008 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/01/2008 3:07:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson

We received a copyright infringement notice today from Forbes.com. They requested that we either remove a thread that contained a full text posting of one of their articles or reduce it to a brief one paragraph excerpt with a link back to their source article. We have complied with their request and have added Forbes.com to the excerpt and link only list.

My understanding of fair use is that we can quote small amounts of copyrighted works for critiquing and discussion purposes as long as we're not adversely impacting the publisher's market for his works.

Our excerpt and link list is growing (click link above) and I'm afraid it's just a matter of time until we're going to have to require excerpting on all posts.

Please comply with our source publishers' copyright requests by excerpting your article posts where required and linking back to the source sites. Please keep the excerpts brief and do not continue the excerpted article in the comments or reply sections.

Thank you all very much.

Jim Robinson


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To: Radix
It is always a simple matter to just hit the top link bar in order to read the entire article which is what I usually do anyhow.

It is a simple matter... unless you're on dialup (and folks still are) and the site is larded-up with graphics and other slow-loading material. When I still used dial-up, "excerpt" meant I was not going to read the article unless I was really, really, interested enough to wait many minutes for the garbage to download.

Even now if it's excerpted, it's fairly likely I won't click through; it it's presented in its entirety on FR there's a fair chance I'll read it.

21 posted on 02/01/2008 4:55:39 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar
You’re right.

I hadn’t considered the dial up folks.

Sorry, I’ve had high speed for a very long while now.

I remember my early years of AOL blue strip.

I’ve been on line 14 or more years now.

22 posted on 02/01/2008 4:59:13 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: bad company

It would be impossible to show that FR is depriving anyone of revenue by reposting material here for discussion purposes.

At best, an argument might be made that a few people here might hit the Forbes website and thus deprive them of some webpage hits which could result in advertising dollars. But you couldn’t prove it, and it’s just as arguable that FR is directing more traffic to a site by those curious about the source.

Why aren’t public libraries illegal?


23 posted on 02/01/2008 5:07:04 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Jim Robinson
I can attest to this! I got in an argument with one of those liberal yahoos on a newsgroup when they were bashing Christianity, and they linked to a wiki article that they changed--it was supposed to be about persecution of Christians in the world today, but they changed the wording to make it sound like Christians are persecuting others with their "intolerant" viewpoints!! >:-(

I got a wiki account and fixed it and go back to check on it occasionally to make sure that yahoo hasn't changed it again...but I learned pretty quick that Jim is right, it's very left-leaning at wiki. Now there's supposed to be a more balanced site though, at conservapedia.com. I haven't checked it out fully, but I've heard good things about the website. Not sure if Jim would allow links to conservapedia or not.
24 posted on 02/01/2008 5:12:25 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: Radix
Sorry, I’ve had high speed for a very long while now.

You're very fortunate. We only got there year before last, and even then limited to 26 kbps by poor telephone copper. (It got to where I could tell a bit about the weather conditions by listening to the connection negotiation tones.)

25 posted on 02/01/2008 5:18:57 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Jim Robinson

This article should make your head explode.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/31/AR2008013103958.html?hpid=topnews

NFL Pulls Plug On Big-Screen Church Parties For Super Bowl

Excerpt:
The NFL said, however, that the copyright law on its games is long-standing and the language read at the end of each game is well known: “This telecast is copyrighted by the NFL for the private use of our audience. Any other use of this telecast or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the game without the NFL’s consent is prohibited.”

The league bans public exhibitions of its games on TV sets or screens larger than 55 inches because smaller sets limit the audience size. The section of federal copyright law giving the NFL protection over the content of its programming exempts sports bars, NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said.


26 posted on 02/01/2008 5:21:08 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: Enough_Deceit

LOL.

If nominated by my party I will not run. If elected I will not serve.


27 posted on 02/01/2008 5:50:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: sionnsar

That sounds like the best approach.


28 posted on 02/01/2008 5:53:31 PM PST by Kevmo (We need to get rid of the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: colorcountry

;)


29 posted on 02/01/2008 6:05:15 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Mitt willingly gives up his personal freedoms to his church..why would he protect YOURS!)
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To: Jim Robinson
If nominated by my party I will not run. If elected I will not serve.

You are a very wise man.

Besides, you're more valuable running FR!

30 posted on 02/01/2008 6:07:51 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

I must agree, Jim is much more valuable running FR. However, if we could find someone like him to run. . .

Like I said, he is a conservative’s conservative.


31 posted on 02/01/2008 6:35:02 PM PST by Enough_Deceit (Proud Mama of a US Marine!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Will do! I’m sorry for the stress that this stuff must cause you, Jim. Letters from lawyers are never fun to receive.

Thanks for everything you do to keep FR going strong. :) G-d bless you and yours!


32 posted on 02/01/2008 7:15:00 PM PST by LibertyRocks ("Islam - The Religion of Pieces" -- quote from LR's "Infidel & Proud" Daughter)
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To: sionnsar
Even now if it's excerpted, it's fairly likely I won't click through; it it's presented in its entirety on FR there's a fair chance I'll read it.

Same here. In general, if they don't want their stuff posted here, I don't want to give them traffic. That's especially true for those who require links only.

I'm thinking a firefox plugin that blocks content from all sites that restrict access would be just about right.

33 posted on 02/01/2008 8:35:47 PM PST by zeugma (McCain, if you want to be sold out for a day on TV.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Excerpts. I hate them

And I don’t understand why so many original sources would want Free Republic to excerpt thier articles.

Often times, when I or other FReepers have to excerpt an article we cut and paste. We - snip - out sections to make that under 300 word requirement.

In other words we edit.

Do these morons in the MSM really want us FReeprs editing their copyrighted material? Cause that’s what we do.


34 posted on 02/02/2008 8:12:05 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: xcamel

Excellent idea! We do want to follow the rules.


35 posted on 02/02/2008 8:45:16 AM PST by Fudd Fan (FREDheads for MITT!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Forbes to endorse Mc Vain ????

Me thinks, therefore ..........

36 posted on 02/02/2008 9:01:41 AM PST by IrishMike (Liberalism is Jihad from within)
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Our excerpt and link list is growing (click link above) and I'm afraid it's just a matter of time until we're going to have to require excerpting on all posts.

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints

37 posted on 02/02/2008 9:13:21 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: Capt. Tom
A while back, I read something that was clearly wrong, and easily provably wrong. I went in an edited it and put in the correct dates and story.

You should check that subject. They probably undid your edit.

38 posted on 02/02/2008 2:13:21 PM PST by TBP
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To: Jim Robinson

Link and excerpt is one thing. I think the ones who insist that we not quote them at all (or in rare cases, even cite them) are idiots. They’re actually using copyright in a way that brings DOWN traffic to their sites.

But they’re liberals, so I don’t expect them to be intelligent.


39 posted on 02/02/2008 2:16:21 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP
You should check that subject. They probably undid your edit.

I just went there and checked and my edits are still intact- Tom.

40 posted on 02/02/2008 3:06:50 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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