Posted on 01/29/2008 7:19:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Now that the Sunshine has set, two old friends come to an understanding.
McCain topper Rick Davis quietly negotiated the agreement.
HALPERINS TAKE: 10 things Giuliani could have done differently.
Giuliani, in Florida concession speech, talked about his effort in the past tense, but said nothing explicit about dropping out or The Deal.
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Yes, and they are jealous.
Guess I’ll write to Fred Thompson and beg him to come back and save us; climb the ladder and get us out the window. Hopeless, but so is everything else.
Thompson has since regretted his support of McCain-Feingold and has said so. As for backing McCain in 2000, that was before McCain did all these unconservative things and in-your-face actions against conservatives and the GOP. McCain was a friend of his and George W Bush was not. Unsurprising to me that he supported him then. This is now, not then.
Good answer
I think you've hit upon a super weakness of McCain. There IS no coherent message or core belief system coming from McCain. He cherry picks his issues and mostly from the lib angle, sides with Dems against Repubs, grovels to the MSM, then has the gall to turn around and claim the Reagan/conservative mantle as much as anybody.
However, with McCain it's personality, it's a heroic reputation (deserved or not), it's image, it's a lot of peoples' perception of McCain as someone of strength and character. With a lot of folks its the old idea that "its McCain's turn". Others don't like Hillary but are fairly lib themselves.
So, McCain will do better than he has any reason to do. He will skate on many things, such as he as seemed to skate on lying about Romney re: timetables.
At the same time, you keep thinking he's someone waiting to crash and burn. Something there that could explode in his face at any time, and the Dems will certainly try to help that along.
He has an absolutely 100% valid point that is shared by many, if not most people here to some degree.
Haven't you ever become frustrated with the RINO-fication of the party?
I don't blame him for being upset and voicing it one bit. I welcome it. If we don't voice our frustration, how does anyone know the situation is unacceptable?
...And we will have to endure the reign of “The Queen...”
No surprise here.
And he has since said he would work to change the parts that haven’t worked. If that’s all you’ve got, then that’s not enough to say they are even close to believing the same things.
McCain Takes Florida, Gets Giuliani Endorsement
Updated: Jan 30, 2008 06:08 AM
ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - It appears his status as “America’s Mayor” just wasn’t enough to sustain Rudy Giuliani’s attempt to become the Republican candidate for president.
Giuliani finished a distant third yesterday in the Florida primary, where he had been counting on thousands of transplanted New Yorkers to boost his candidacy.
While he stopped short of saying he’s quitting the campaign, his speech last night was more farewell than fight on. Republican officials say he’ll endorse Florida winner John McCain today.
The GOP candidates are scheduled to be in California for a debate.
Just last year, Giuliani occupied the top of the national polls. He seemed destined to turn conventional wisdom on end by running as a moderate Republican who supported abortion rights, gay rights and gun control.
http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=7794817
This is possibly the ONLY way the GOP can remain viable with conservatives. We need McCain, Romney and Huckabee to each take enough delegates to force a brokered convention. Fred Thompson was almost everyone's first or second choice, it is still a real possibility.
McCain winning Florida could have actually helped conservatives, because if Romney won he would have gotten a lot of momentum and probably been unstoppable, I don't think McCain will.
McCain is unhinged. Romney isn’t.
Giuliani goes, McCain stays. FReepers hoist by their own petard.
That’s exactly how I feel. McCain won’t get my vote this side of Heaven or Hell. Obama...? At the very least, one could hope his inexperience will leave him ill-suited to confronting a strong Republican opposition in Congress.
When McCain won Florida, I can honestly say it is the most dejected I’ve ever felt politically. I’m actually considering unplugging from politics completely, as it feels like I’m doing nothing but pissing in the wind.
> I cant stand McCain, but I trust him more than Hillary or Obama
In the sense that death by drowning is better than death by fire, I agree.
What a revolting election season this is turning out to be.
> Fred Thompson would never endorse McCain Fred was the only true conservative in the race.
I hope you are right, but once Duncan Hunter endorsed the Huckster I got ready for more disappointment from my heroes.
I really hope Fred keeps out of this one and keeps his powder dry for 2012. Oh God, did I really say 2012? I hate this election...
> McCain is unhinged. Romney isnt.
Yes, Willard will be in full possession of his faculties when he calculatingly flop/flips back to his liberal ways once he is in power.
Not that I’m fond of McInsane, or the Huckster.
Sigh.
IMO, John Keene’s endorsement of Mitt Romney should count for more with REAL conservatives than Guiliani’s endorsement of McAmnesty.
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