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Military now says planes flying in area of UFO reports (Stephenville "UFO")
Houston Chronicle ^

Posted on 01/24/2008 8:40:09 AM PST by mnehring

FORT WORTH — So much for aliens in Texas dairy country.

At least that's what the military said today, reporting that 10 F-16 fighter jets were training in the Stephenville area the night dozens of residents reported seeing a UFO.

Although Air Force Reserve officials at the Joint Reserve Base Naval Air Station in Fort Worth initially said none of their planes were in the area Jan. 8, they said today that they had made a mistake and wanted to set the record straight "in the interest of public awareness."

Some residents aren't buying it, though, saying the military's revelation actually bolsters their claims because several reported seeing at least two fighter jets chasing an object.

"This supports our story that there was UFO activity in that area," said Kenneth Cherry, the Texas director of the Mutual UFO Network, which took more than 50 reports from locals at a meeting last weekend. "I find it curious that it took them two weeks to 'fess up. I think they're feeling the heat from the publicity."

From well-respected business owners to a county constable, several dozen people swear that what they saw was larger, quieter, faster and lower to the ground than an airplane. They also said the object's lights changed configuration, unlike those of a plane.

"I guarantee that what we saw was not a civilian aircraft," Steve Allen, a pilot and freight company owner, said today.

Allen said that the planes' training area in the Brownwood Military Operating Area that includes Stephenville's Erath County does not include the airspace where he saw the object. Also, Jan. 8 was not the only day sightings were reported.

Anne Frazor, who owns a fabric store in Stephenville, about 70 miles southwest of Fort Worth, said many in town have seen military aircraft zoom overhead from time to time as part of training operations. But she said that is different than what she saw Jan. 8.

"I couldn't begin to say what it was, but to me it wasn't planes," Frazor said.

Since the reported sightings two weeks ago, the 17,000-resident town has had some fun with the international publicity. Some high-schoolers made T-shirts that read "Stephenville: the new Roswell" on the front and "They're here for the milk!" on the back. A picture features flying saucer beaming up a cow.

This week Tarleton State University is even hosting a lecture by a UFO researcher on the U.S. government's secret response to UFOs, based on previously classified documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.

The U.S. Air Force says it has not investigated UFO sightings since 1969 when it ended Project Blue Book, which examined more than 12,600 reported UFO sightings — including 700 that were never explained. That program started a few months after the 1947 crash near Roswell, N.M., which the government said it was a top-secret weather balloon but others involved later said was an alien spacecraft.

"What we want is the government to admit there are UFOs and what they know about them," Cherry said.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: mufon; puppetmasters; ufo; usaf
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To: stuartcr
If there were aliens, wouldn’t it be in the bible?

You are not in the bible. Do you exist?

61 posted on 01/24/2008 10:58:08 AM PST by nitzy (globalism and limited government cannot co-exist)
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To: Williams

I would suspect that the AF is having alot of things they need to cover up on this episode...and it relates to some recon vehicle. The funny thing is that they ought to utilize their huge area in central Neveda, and not go out across the nation...unless they are prepared for discovery.


62 posted on 01/24/2008 11:01:11 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: WoofDog123
Just using terrestrial species’ physical abilites, I would wonder if, given the right mental development, why some insects couldn’t begin to develop more advanced ways of manipulating things, as use of tools is a huge step down the road.

Insects from outer space!

I wouldn't want to be the one to welcome them. All the movies indicate that they would have bad motives in coming here.

I understand your point, I just couldn't resist the idea of insects from outer space.
63 posted on 01/24/2008 11:01:15 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression (Dime: a dollar with all the taxes taken out.)
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To: mnehrling

Just providing cover for the new top secret technology.


64 posted on 01/24/2008 11:03:21 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: r9etb

She can mind meld with me anytime!


65 posted on 01/24/2008 11:06:09 AM PST by OB1kNOb (What a sad state of GOP affairs it has come to, picking a candidate as the lesser evil.)
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To: WoofDog123
Your humor is appreciated! I had wondered if spellingpoliceperson needed hyphenation, actually.

I am satisfied with your "spelling police person" phrase, but I would have to consult my supervisor for any decision beyond that.
66 posted on 01/24/2008 11:11:49 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression (Dime: a dollar with all the taxes taken out.)
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To: Post-Neolithic

OK, thanks


67 posted on 01/24/2008 11:15:11 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: nitzy

Maybe


68 posted on 01/24/2008 11:15:56 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: FreedomOfExpression
capable of building a spacecraft that appears to be solid, and piloting it to another solar system"?

They crash a lot. Perhaps they can fly between galaxies well enough, but not driving the saucer without running into the planet would indicate a residual eye-hand coordination that these evolved beings may have lost.

69 posted on 01/24/2008 11:20:07 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: pepsionice

There is talk at some other forums (www.abovetopsecret.com) that the MSM is being used by the government to stage a “mock” UFO attack to build up sentiment in building up weapons and the military even more so than the other superpowers like the newly emblazed USSR and China on just the pretense its for anti-alien warfare and not against them, its going to be an interesting 2008.
40 years ago we had aircraft that was literally 40 years ahead of everybody else, so what could Area 51 or any Skunk Works have now? I remember seeing a really fast moving object in the sky in Salinas, CA one evening back in around 1988 that was moving I would guess at maybe 5,000mph and possibly about 50,000ft. up and left a series of “puffs” in its contrail, I think it was the Aurora back then, even now the military refuses to say it exists but of course it has to be because its Made in USA. Myself I think this whole affair in Texas is an attempt to “condition” the public to a supposed UFO presence. There was also recently supposedly an alien radio message caught on satellite at Arecibo that was far above anything recorded to date. Personally I think it was planted there even debunked enough to make the tinfoil hatters believe it even more so, again I am being neutral on all this until I see it myself.


70 posted on 01/24/2008 12:18:07 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: mnehrling

71 posted on 01/24/2008 1:56:44 PM PST by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. In fact, I'm enjoying every minute of it.)
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To: All
OK everyone I have an observation
About the same time this what ever it was appeared we have been having a lot of terrestrial interference on our C-band satellite not just at my site but other sites as well in a line from Wichita Falls down to Del Rio (I work for the CATV CO) the interference starts at 1.9 GHZ there is a carrier in the band that is 15Db higher than the satellite signals.

I don't believe in coincidences but something is up and is affecting that band in multiple locations.

72 posted on 01/24/2008 2:14:28 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: WoofDog123

Yes, but they also usually contain hysterical hyperbole and conspiracy theories.....LOL!

When some of the really cool planes used in the Iraq war were first publicly televised, I said “Ah!” and pondered the ‘mystery’ no more.

My belief is, that, if they are showing us *these* marvels of technology now, what do they have stashed away that they have *not* shown us, yet?

We have a magnificent military and the equipment they invent never ceases to amaze me.

[hey....there’s 3 guys in black suits at my door...gotta go now]

;-D


73 posted on 01/24/2008 2:20:14 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: dinoparty

Heck if I know.

Hubby’s the plane-head and can name all the A and B-things and C-whatevers, not me....:)

What do we have that can “fly” ~really~ slow, almost to the point of hovering?

Whatever we have that does that, that’s what it was.

[wasn’t that just the least technically knowledegable answer you’ve *ever* received?]....LOL!

The only aircraft that *I* am aware of that can fly like that is a Harrier and this wasn’t a Harrier.

Beyond that, I’m drawing a total blank.


74 posted on 01/24/2008 2:27:22 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Rightly Biased
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaugh!

......;]

75 posted on 01/24/2008 2:44:15 PM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: r9etb

Don’t post that picture again. You don’t know what it
does to me.


76 posted on 01/24/2008 4:08:52 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Eye of Unk

I had a best friend for years and years who earlier worked at Nellis (Groom Base) in the mid 80s as an electronic tech on the “Wobbly Goblin” as they referred to it then (I did manage to get that out of him after they were declassified). He told me, in a very oblique and circumspect way, that he saw some sort of aircraft on the taxiway right after his commuter flight from McCarren, that absolutely left his jaw drop. I know he was told to forget about ever seeing it. My impression from his body language was that it was something really far out, not just a new generation of stealth fighter or something. I asked him if I would recognize it as an aircraft, but I didn’t get an answer. Wish I would have got a chance to visit one of those Area 51 overlooks before they were closed.


77 posted on 01/24/2008 4:19:23 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: ASA Vet
While at Sea Survival School at Kadena, we saw one land......and hauled straight into a hanger. Less than 5 minutes exposure.
78 posted on 01/24/2008 10:58:55 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul politicians. The Ship of State needs a good scrubbing!)
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To: steve86
About 15 years ago (give or take), I saw something that made my jaw drop -- all the way to the ground.

It was after a line of really bad thunderstorms had passed, and the weather report said another front was on its way. (Mid-Michigan, typical summer weather.)

I went outside to scan the sky for tornados (having seen one heading my way in similar weather, which fortunately broke up before getting too close).

While scanning the sky (clear blue sky, with a few "after the storm" type clouds) I saw a black dot on the western horizon, perhaps a quarter or half mile to the north. My first thought was "bird" -- but, it didn't seem to be moving. My second thought was "idiot with kite, sheesh!"

After a few minutes, though, I noticed that it was slowly moving closer to me. Back to "bird?" -- or, "kite, with broken string?"

As it was moving toward the east, it was also moving slightly to the south, and, losing altitude (when first spotted, it was, rough guess, two or three thousand feet up).

By the time it was nearly at my east/west position, it had gotten far enough to the south that it was nearly overhead -- and, only a few hundred feet in altitude.

It was obvious by then that it was neither a kite nor a bird. It was roughly the size of a fighter jet -- black -- silent -- NO engine ports, intakes, propellers, or vertical stabilizers.

It was nearly round -- a rounded triangle shape, with a sharp notch in the rear. It had a small cabin on top.

It was meandering around the sky, it reminded me of a fish slowly swimming -- nose was always pointed in the direction it was moving, but it was moving VERY slow -- not more than perhaps 5MPH or thereabouts. Just wandering around aimlessly -- and, drifting to the east.

It was also rocking from side to side, like a rowboat. (That was why I was able to notice that there was a cabin on top.)

I ran inside, got a spotting scope but, it was so humid outside that the lens immediately fogged up with a thick heavy coat (house had AC running). Wiped it off and it instantly re-coated. Ran back in, got a monocular (half a binocular, that had been converted into a monocular) -- same deal. So, I just kept eyeballing it.

Shortly after it passed my east/west position, the easterly drift picked up speed, and within about thirty seconds it was gone over the eastern horizon.

Fast-forward a few years...

I am in a social setting, having casual conversation with some folks, one of which is a fairly high-ranking officer (I won't mention the branch of military, other than "USA"). I thought, hmm, I wonder if he'd know what it was?

So, I decided to ask. I described what I saw, and asked if he knew what it was.

Now is where it gets interesting. This guy was a bit of an extrovert -- a "life of the party" type guy. Well, he instantly froze in his tracks -- got this really worried look on his face -- and blurted out something like, "I don't know what it is. It's not one of ours. That's all I can tell you." and then silence. Dead silence. Everyone just sat there freaked out, because his reaction was so weird -- so completely out of character for him. It took a while before anyone said anything, and eventually things got back to normal.

Fast forward a day. I am talking with the woman who was his dinner date (she, a licensed psychologist, employed by the government). She tells me that it freaked her out too -- so, after they were alone, she asked him what it was. She thought that without all those other people there, he'd be more open.

She said he went right back into that same routine, clammed up, and refused to discuss it.

So, you tell me.

I don't talk about this too much. I don't like getting ridiculed. But, I know what I saw. Or, rather, I know that I saw "something". It was NOT "a light in the sky" or "the planet Venus" or "a stealth fighter" (one suggestion that someone once offered up as an explanation). Stealth fighters have engines -- and, they need to move to stay airborne!

If you check my posting history, you'll see that I've been here for quite a few years, and that I am not a bullshitter. I'm not making this up. I did see what I described, but I have no idea what it was.

79 posted on 01/31/2008 12:25:44 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: DCPatriot

Thanks.


80 posted on 01/31/2008 12:29:33 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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