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To: pepsionice

There is talk at some other forums (www.abovetopsecret.com) that the MSM is being used by the government to stage a “mock” UFO attack to build up sentiment in building up weapons and the military even more so than the other superpowers like the newly emblazed USSR and China on just the pretense its for anti-alien warfare and not against them, its going to be an interesting 2008.
40 years ago we had aircraft that was literally 40 years ahead of everybody else, so what could Area 51 or any Skunk Works have now? I remember seeing a really fast moving object in the sky in Salinas, CA one evening back in around 1988 that was moving I would guess at maybe 5,000mph and possibly about 50,000ft. up and left a series of “puffs” in its contrail, I think it was the Aurora back then, even now the military refuses to say it exists but of course it has to be because its Made in USA. Myself I think this whole affair in Texas is an attempt to “condition” the public to a supposed UFO presence. There was also recently supposedly an alien radio message caught on satellite at Arecibo that was far above anything recorded to date. Personally I think it was planted there even debunked enough to make the tinfoil hatters believe it even more so, again I am being neutral on all this until I see it myself.


70 posted on 01/24/2008 12:18:07 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: Eye of Unk

I had a best friend for years and years who earlier worked at Nellis (Groom Base) in the mid 80s as an electronic tech on the “Wobbly Goblin” as they referred to it then (I did manage to get that out of him after they were declassified). He told me, in a very oblique and circumspect way, that he saw some sort of aircraft on the taxiway right after his commuter flight from McCarren, that absolutely left his jaw drop. I know he was told to forget about ever seeing it. My impression from his body language was that it was something really far out, not just a new generation of stealth fighter or something. I asked him if I would recognize it as an aircraft, but I didn’t get an answer. Wish I would have got a chance to visit one of those Area 51 overlooks before they were closed.


77 posted on 01/24/2008 4:19:23 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: Eye of Unk
I remember seeing a really fast moving object in the sky in Salinas, CA one evening back in around 1988 that was moving I would guess at maybe 5,000mph and possibly about 50,000ft. up and left a series of “puffs” in its contrail, I think it was the Aurora back then, even now the military refuses to say it exists but of course it has to be because its Made in USA.

Someone else suggested that what I saw was the Aurora (BTW, it's been pretty much had its cover blown -- turns out there was a black budget line item for it that "oopsed" its way out of The Blackness -- and the "donuts on a rope" contrail is a classic sign of its pulse engine). I did some research on it, and found that the Aurora is a FAST plane -- much faster than the SR71 (originally the "RS71, until LBJ flubbed his lines, and rather than embarrass him by correcting him, they just changed the name of the plane to match his goof). (And, strangely, the killed the SR71 right around the time the Aurora began. Made little sense for them to kill the SR71 with no replacement ready to deploy, yet, that was the official story.)

Anyway, the Aurora is a FAST plane, not a "floats at 5MPH" plane (without engine or noise). So, after doing some research, I discounted that explanation.

I do think that what I saw (see my previous post for description) was some kind of black project -- most likely using some kind of electrostatic drive, maybe nuclear powered -- but I cannot figure out why they've kept the wraps on it for so long, unless it IS nuke-powered and they don't want to deal with the grief that such a disclosure would provoke.

Whatever it was, it was VERY impressive to watch. Never saw anything like it before -- or since (although I do keep an eye towards the sky when outdoors now!)

Frankly, I wish they would own up to it, because I think it would provide an incredible deterrent to our various adversaries. No one in his right mind (and nearly no one NOT in his right mind) would want to screw with a nation capable of producing something like that!

84 posted on 01/31/2008 12:55:29 AM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Eye of Unk

Interesting screen name. My relative who worked around UFO’s . . . his dad was called unk from uncle by most relatives.

anyway-—

Dr. Carol Rosin asserted quite some time ago, IIRC, and certainly on DISCLOSURE PROJECT DVD’s and is cited in Stephen Greer’s first tome . . . as quoting Werner von Braun saying in

1974

that the oligarchy/puppetmasters/NWO cabal

had scheduled

1. a war on terror to be followed by
2. a war on Iraq . . . to be followed by
3. a war in space with “ET.”

I’ve been convinced since about 1962 or so that such would be involved toward coercing the world’s citizens into a tryannical global government the Bible decribes in Revenlation and the New Testament mentions will involved the greatest DECEPTION ever—so great a deception that IF it were possible, [evidently not because of God protecting same] the very elect would be deceived.

I believe that the last 12 months has seen a measured racheting up of UFO phenomena toward such a ‘war’ that will be a staged thing involving the planning of the “ET’s” as well as the planning of the satanic oligarchy.


95 posted on 01/31/2008 1:19:57 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Eye of Unk
There is a hilarious book with that premise. In "The Little Green Men" there is a secret government agency that kidnaps people and makes them think they were kidnapped by aliens. The point of that exercise escapes me right now but it is a funny book.
99 posted on 01/31/2008 1:28:33 AM PST by Ditter
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