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Military now says planes flying in area of UFO reports (Stephenville "UFO")
Houston Chronicle ^

Posted on 01/24/2008 8:40:09 AM PST by mnehring

FORT WORTH — So much for aliens in Texas dairy country.

At least that's what the military said today, reporting that 10 F-16 fighter jets were training in the Stephenville area the night dozens of residents reported seeing a UFO.

Although Air Force Reserve officials at the Joint Reserve Base Naval Air Station in Fort Worth initially said none of their planes were in the area Jan. 8, they said today that they had made a mistake and wanted to set the record straight "in the interest of public awareness."

Some residents aren't buying it, though, saying the military's revelation actually bolsters their claims because several reported seeing at least two fighter jets chasing an object.

"This supports our story that there was UFO activity in that area," said Kenneth Cherry, the Texas director of the Mutual UFO Network, which took more than 50 reports from locals at a meeting last weekend. "I find it curious that it took them two weeks to 'fess up. I think they're feeling the heat from the publicity."

From well-respected business owners to a county constable, several dozen people swear that what they saw was larger, quieter, faster and lower to the ground than an airplane. They also said the object's lights changed configuration, unlike those of a plane.

"I guarantee that what we saw was not a civilian aircraft," Steve Allen, a pilot and freight company owner, said today.

Allen said that the planes' training area in the Brownwood Military Operating Area that includes Stephenville's Erath County does not include the airspace where he saw the object. Also, Jan. 8 was not the only day sightings were reported.

Anne Frazor, who owns a fabric store in Stephenville, about 70 miles southwest of Fort Worth, said many in town have seen military aircraft zoom overhead from time to time as part of training operations. But she said that is different than what she saw Jan. 8.

"I couldn't begin to say what it was, but to me it wasn't planes," Frazor said.

Since the reported sightings two weeks ago, the 17,000-resident town has had some fun with the international publicity. Some high-schoolers made T-shirts that read "Stephenville: the new Roswell" on the front and "They're here for the milk!" on the back. A picture features flying saucer beaming up a cow.

This week Tarleton State University is even hosting a lecture by a UFO researcher on the U.S. government's secret response to UFOs, based on previously classified documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.

The U.S. Air Force says it has not investigated UFO sightings since 1969 when it ended Project Blue Book, which examined more than 12,600 reported UFO sightings — including 700 that were never explained. That program started a few months after the 1947 crash near Roswell, N.M., which the government said it was a top-secret weather balloon but others involved later said was an alien spacecraft.

"What we want is the government to admit there are UFOs and what they know about them," Cherry said.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: mufon; puppetmasters; ufo; usaf
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To: mnehrling
Some of the letters in the link state that people who live near the airstrip have for years gotten to know the routines and schedules and sounds of the F16s and C-130s, etc..

What they all say is that on the nights in question, it was obvious that the planes were in pursuit of something.

Furthermore, it's true as another poster said that it's difficult to ascertain the size of something flying up above, but the eyewitnesses had the treetops and to assist them.

He said that it completely filled his field of vision and completely blocked out the sky...made no sound and took off at a terrific speed at an unnatural angle...in a blink of an eye.

21 posted on 01/24/2008 9:05:00 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: RC2
"Those people in Texas must be drinkin stuff I never heard about. Don’t they know the difference between a UFO and an F-16?"

Sounds like it's the Air Force that's been sneaking a few nips at the bottle...they initially issued a categorical denial of any planes in the air in that area, then all of a sudden remembered the 10 F-16s they had flying.

I certainly understand the reasons for not disclosing all military operations, but d@mn...if that's the case they really need to work on a better cover story. This is the same USAF that in recent months lost accountability of a nuke warhead or two, and now says that 10 F-16s were cruising around without their awareness. UFO or not, the way they handled this doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence.

22 posted on 01/24/2008 9:08:18 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: mnehrling

Now why would aliens in spacecraft presumably much more advanced than ours fly millions of light years to get here then attempt to cruise around in a clandestine fashion at night with BIG BRIGHT FLASHY lights all over the ship? Really.

If aliens were here they’d either introduce themselves or you’d never even know of it. None of this “it was slowly moving over the treetops sneaking around with it’s big multicolored lights and all of a sudden this beam a come out and knocked my brother-in-law into the air near fifty feet.” foolishness.


23 posted on 01/24/2008 9:09:52 AM PST by Round 9
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To: mnehrling
Not sure about this story but there are aprox. 125 billion galaxies, each of these galaxies have about 100-200 billion stars each. Ours alone, The Milky Way, has 200 billion stars.

If each of these stars only had 1 planet orbiting them, there would be aprox. 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets. If anyone thinks we are the only intelligent life out of all these planets, well let's just say their egotistical rating is way off the scale or they have the IQ of an ameba.

24 posted on 01/24/2008 9:10:26 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: mnehrling

They were right over Arlen, I read about it from Rusty Shackleford on www.blackhelicopters.com


25 posted on 01/24/2008 9:13:21 AM PST by fungoking
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To: Post-Neolithic
...If each of these stars only had 1 planet orbiting them, there would be aprox. 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets.

To me, that makes it a mathematical certainty.

26 posted on 01/24/2008 9:16:27 AM PST by Restore (see the Cool Aviation Blog at http://coolaviation.blogspot.com/)
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To: FJB2

Maybe they are just really arrogant...


27 posted on 01/24/2008 9:21:17 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Post-Neolithic

If there were aliens, wouldn’t it be in the bible?


28 posted on 01/24/2008 9:22:21 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Williams

Many years ago, my dogs started acting squirrely and stood looking at the west-side living room window.
Curious cat that I am, I went out the back door into the warm summer night and looked around.
The stars were gloriously bright...and then I noticed that a HUGE part of the sky simply had no stars.

A black object, blacker than the night sky was flying slowly and majestically over the neighbor’s house which sits atop a ridge above me.

Three *tiny* little unblinking lights suggested it was triangular in shape.

Rather than panicking or feeling terrified, I felt awe, instead.

I don’t believe in “UFOs” and I assumed it was something of ours....so I cheerfully waved at whomever was piloting the thing.

With no sound that I could *hear* [but a definite internal “hum” could be felt], it simply glided over the northwest ridge and out of sight.

I went back inside and told hubby. [an ex-Air force/current aviation nut]
He was very upset that I did not run to fetch him so he could see it too but I simply didn’t want to miss a second of that grand, black procession occurring overhead.

On another evening, I watched what *appeared* to be three huge helicopters [judging by the sound] flying quite some distance apart, take the same path overhead.
Then, without warning, whatever it was accelerated with deafening speed and I realized that the three “helicopters” were actually one aircraft.

I have no idea what that was.

It was, however, waaaay cool....:)


29 posted on 01/24/2008 9:23:26 AM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: fungoking

Funny site.


30 posted on 01/24/2008 9:27:23 AM PST by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: FJB2
Now why would aliens in spacecraft presumably much more advanced than ours fly millions of light years to get here then attempt to cruise around in a clandestine fashion at night with BIG BRIGHT FLASHY lights all over the ship? Really.


LOL! Like the ETs in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. They can defy the laws of physics, implant obsessions in our brains, drop ships in deserts, cloak themselves in storm clouds......and yet they can't learn the English language. Instead, they greet us with a cheesy five-note "theme and variations" concert.
31 posted on 01/24/2008 9:31:20 AM PST by macamadamia ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." Yeats)
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To: stuartcr
"If there were aliens, wouldn’t it be in the bible?"

Actually the Bible does not discount life on other planets. The Bible revolves around his work here, on this planet.

32 posted on 01/24/2008 9:33:16 AM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: mnehrling

There have been enough mass sightings of very large airborne objects around the US that if the media actually approached this objectively rather than with the ridicule line some interesting patterns might be established.

Mainly I would be interested in how shape.size/altitude/etc. is described in various such sightings.

And yes, air force bases do scramble fighters when something unusual is seen in the air. Would be curious to know if this was a pre-scheduled flight.


33 posted on 01/24/2008 9:40:49 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Joe 6-pack
the way they handled this doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence

Does anything in the government inspire confidence?

34 posted on 01/24/2008 9:42:41 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (...dreams of a Utopia - a land where 'Liberals' aka Totalitarians do not exist...)
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To: Post-Neolithic

What part talks about it, I would like to read it?


35 posted on 01/24/2008 9:42:55 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: FJB2

“If aliens were here they’d either introduce themselves or you’d never even know of it.”

Attributing anthropomorphic motives/goals to hypothetical aliens may not be realistic. Hell, extraterrestrial life would have gone down an entirely different evolutionary enviroment (even down to basic chemical structures, etc) and may not even perceive time in the way species on this planet do.

Whatever the case here, I don’t think ET’s will work in real life they way they do on Star Trek or other such stuff.


36 posted on 01/24/2008 9:46:47 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Salamander

“Three *tiny* little unblinking lights suggested it was triangular in shape.”

That is actually pretty commonly described, I assume you have perhaps seen some of the other testimonials on the web describing something which sounds like what you describe.


37 posted on 01/24/2008 9:48:27 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Post-Neolithic

Why would you think that EACH star would have a planet orbiting it?

As for those stars outside the solar system where planets HAVE been found, the vast majority of the planets have been massive gas giants. Not too compatible with life in anything resembling humanoid form.


38 posted on 01/24/2008 9:49:58 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression (Dime: a dollar with all the taxes taken out.)
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To: Salamander

Stealth Bomber?

I have a good friend who saw one of those when he was camping.


39 posted on 01/24/2008 9:53:44 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: Post-Neolithic
If anyone thinks we are the only intelligent life out of all these planets, well let's just say their egotistical rating is way off the scale or they have the IQ of an ameba.

It’s amoeba.

40 posted on 01/24/2008 9:54:18 AM PST by FreedomOfExpression (Dime: a dollar with all the taxes taken out.)
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