Posted on 01/21/2008 3:50:08 PM PST by Prospero
I am for this as well, and Duncan Hunter should also get behind it, even with one regular and one alternate delegate from Wyoming, give them a bullhorn, too, to make a big noise there in Minneapolis.
Of course, that's a bit delusional. The people who don't vote might well be sending message, but it's impossible to discern.
It might be, "I don't care about politics." It might be, "I was drunk and I forgot." There are a million reasons for not voting, but sending a message isn't one of them if it's impossible to know what the message is.
It would be the best thing in the world for us... no matter who won. Unless, of course... it was McCain.. who, I will NEVER, EVER vote for.
We would be much better off with a compromise candidate coming from a brokered convention than with a candidate from the primaries who few people are excited about. Actually, a brokered convention would capture America's attention and would probably be a great positive.
A brokered convention would leave such bitter taste in the mouths of all attendees, the GOP would be demoralized for years.
Just look at the bitterness and anger here on an anonymous FR forum.
Fistfights and shoutdowns would be the order of the day at an open Convention, I believe.
Hunter supporters and Fred heads would be butting heads with Huckster fanatics, while McCainiacs would be demanding the great SENATOR be nominated because it's HIS turn.
The cops would likely be arresting protesters on the spot for disturbing the peace.
No, a brokered convention would send the mainstream liberal media into orgasmic interludes the likes of which hasn't been seen since Slickster won the Presidency in 1992.
Our only hope is that some segment of the GOP can swallow their pride, and move their support to a candidate who actually has a chance of winning.
If the Republican Party truly needs my vote, it knows my address on the political spectrum. I’m not moving, but it’s my take that if their fair haired liberal(R) gets half the vote this year, that Bush got in 2004, some eyebrows are going to rise, and some hard choices are going to be made.
Going left isn’t going to continue to work for them. And when that happens, you watch how fast some really nasty stuff gets passed. It’s going to scare the livin s—t out of the globalists, and they’ll do their best to make hay while the sun shines. (Read that before the next general election where a conservative can run and win. When that happens, time will have run out on their treacherous plans.)
That will confirm to me all I needed to know. My party, the republican party was just as happy to turn over our nation to an international body of governance, as the most strident leftist socialist were.
If Romney wins 40% or more in Florida, would that convince anyone of his viability nationwide?
If a true conservative isn't on the ticket to oppose her, me thinks that it is inevitable that she will be our next POTUS.
After all, Hillary is the greater of two evils.
FR endorsed FRED.
A precisely wrong analysis IMO.
It would. Florida's Republicans are sufficiently diverse that a 40% win would probably do just that in a field with as many candidates as there are.
I think the chances of that are pretty remote, though.
Humphrey was not appointed Vice President under the 25th Amendment. The office was vacant from Nov 22, 1963 until Jan 20, 1965. Humphrey was elected into the position.
I was also surprised that Reagan was the first R challenger to win in a landslide — also that the sample size is so small.
1888 — Harrison over Cleveland
1980 — Reagan over Carter
The Dems have a larger sample size over the same period...
1892 — Cleveland over Harrison
1912 — Wilson over Taft
1932 — Roosevelt over Hoover
1976 — Carter over Ford
1992 — Clinton over Bush
Oh, I’ll vote — I always vote. We’re going to need all the down-ticket conservatives we can get.
Abraham Lincoln was the product of a brokered convention. He finished fourth on the first ballot.
And I wish I had had the time to edit the piece before I thought the ideas in it needed to be spread abroad for better minds to chew over.
I wrote the history from memory, which is not my habit. Nevertheless, I really appreciate the correction concerning that old Democrat/Farmer-Labor champion from Minnesota, HHH.
(Can you imagine having to listen to one of Hubie Baby's speeches, commenting on the events of this time? What a fireball he was!)
Conservatism is truly dying! Without a true conservative candidate for POTUS, the majority of conservatives throughout the U.S. will just ignore the Presidential/Vice Presidential race, and this also includes many of them not showing up at all to actually vote on November 4! The political left will truly show up in much greater numbers on November 4 just for the opportunity to be able to vote anti-Republican at each and every political level. To the left, they are still voting “against George W. Bush” and his political party even though Bush isn’t running again for POTUS, and this is a major incentive for the left to vote on November 4! Conservatives equally don’t have incentives to truly show up at the highest levels of turnout numbers on November 4, and this is also a serious problem for all of U.S. conservatism. The absence of enough conservatives to vote for POTUS will also affect all of the other races for political offices when more than enough of the “leftist voters” do truly show up to vote all over the U.S.!
Surely you understand that in a two party system the Donk's are going to win one eventually. The stars are going to align to give them Senate and White House control again, as they had in the first years of Clinton's first term.
As the Donk's seem to keep throwing up worse and worse candidates (Gore, Kerry, Edwards, Hillary, Obama...), all anti-gun, anti-freedom, pro-socialist isn't it only a matter of time until we hit your well described zero point?
As things now stand it looks like the economy is in trouble, we no the fiat currency is doing what all fiat currencies do, and the Donks are demagoging everything like there is no tomorrow without them.
I might rather see Hillary take her shot now, then waiting another 20 years. She is the ideal candidate to oppose. She is and always will be both hated and already deconstructred as the most corrupt (co-)President in history. Isn't that the perfect person to over-reach?
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