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Highly Skilled And Out Of Work
Washington Post ^ | 1/21/08 | Michael A. Fletcher

Posted on 01/21/2008 7:59:33 AM PST by xtinct

An unusually large share of workers have been out a job for more than six months even as overall unemployment has remained low, a little-noted weakness in the labor market that analysts said threatens to intensify the impact of the unfolding economic downturn.

In November, nearly 1.4 million people -- almost one in five of those unemployed -- had been jobless for at least 27 weeks, the juncture when unemployment insurance benefits end for most recipients. That is about twice the level of long-term unemployment before the 2001 recession.

The problem is ensnaring a broader swath of workers than before. Once concentrated among manufacturing workers and those with little work history, education or skills, long-term unemployment is growing most rapidly among white-collar and college-educated workers with long work experience, studies have found, making the problem difficult for policymakers to address even as it grows more urgent.

"What has happened is a polarization of the labor market. It was very strong at the very top and very strong until recently at the bottom," said Lawrence F. Katz, a labor economist at Harvard University. "But in the recent weak recovery, and now recession, demand has been very weak" for jobs in the middle.

Caroline Dixon never contemplated any of that when she resigned in April after nine months as a program officer with the Spina Bifida Association. She left because the job was "a bad fit," and she said she was confident that the economy was strong and she would soon find work. For a long time, she never stopped in the unemployment office on Naylor Road near her Southeast Washington home.

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KEYWORDS: economy; employment; jobs; skilledworkers
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To: xtinct
My graduate degree was in Medieval Literature. Maybe I was crazy to spend my time studying things that I enjoyed. However, I was never nutty enough to expect to find a job in that field. My undergrad degree is in hard science and my graduate studies were in the arts.

I didn’t go to college to get a job. I went to college to be an educated person. I never took a class I didn’t like, and that includes a couple that I failed.

I don’t think anyone does that any more. Too bad, their loss.

41 posted on 01/21/2008 10:24:38 AM PST by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: xtinct
had been jobless for at least 27 weeks, the juncture when unemployment insurance benefits end for most recipients

Unemployment insurance. The alcoholics friend.

42 posted on 01/21/2008 10:26:12 AM PST by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: xtinct

Naylor Road... just a hair east of Anacostia.

Charming part of DC.


43 posted on 01/21/2008 10:31:17 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: xtinct

The jobs are there, but they are not for White males descended from Europeans.
Thank you dems and Bush.


44 posted on 01/21/2008 10:50:28 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: PackerBoy

If you do not supply a skill that the market demands, you will struggle to find a job.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Long ago I acquired skills which I expect to be in demand again soon! Among these skills are, growing my own food, cooking over a wood fire, stretching a dollar, entertaining myself by cutting and splitting firewood etc. I should be well fixed.


45 posted on 01/21/2008 10:54:25 AM PST by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: KarlInOhio

“The flip side of that is if I’m an employer and I get even a whiff of that idea going through a potential employee’s head I have only two options...”

Which is why you always make your employer think they’ve got your undying loyalty, a fiction usually matched only by your employer’s claims of actually giving a crap about their employees, when in fact you know they’d cut you lose in a second if it suited their purposes.


46 posted on 01/21/2008 10:57:17 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: bvw

What’s your deal? My advice is one of SANITY. I would grit my teeth, bite my tongue, and hate my job my entire life, if I couldn’t find a better opportunity. I am a family man, and putting food on the table, clothes on their backs, and providing shelter is priority number 1. You know how selfish it would be for me to quit just because I didn’t like it? A single person could if they want to, but it’s just plain stupid.


47 posted on 01/21/2008 10:59:02 AM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: xtinct
a program officer

Highly skilled in what? Welding? Dump truck driving?

48 posted on 01/21/2008 11:00:29 AM PST by RightWhale ("... which is not a linnnit' 'I'ht first published svstenn of predicate logic was devised 1ยป' the ()
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To: PackerBoy
"When people are losing good jobs these days, they have a very hard time getting back to the type of job they had before

Ms. Dixon did not "lose" her job - she up and quit, without having another job secured. Tough luck. She needs to quit whining.

49 posted on 01/21/2008 11:01:34 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: xtinct

And the beat goes on......doom.


50 posted on 01/21/2008 11:01:53 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Amen. As long as we think EITHER of the two major Parties are looking out for Americans, we’re screwed.


51 posted on 01/21/2008 11:09:08 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: scan59
Unemployment insurance. The alcoholics friend.

Not any more. UI isn't enough anymore to keep anyone afloat financially.

52 posted on 01/21/2008 11:09:22 AM PST by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: xtinct
A lot of people here are missing the big picture. Dixon is an educated black woman with a degree and a good employment history. Normally, employers would be rolling out the red carpet to hire her.

If people like her can't find work, what does that say for white males with the same qualifications? I'd say, "not good."

53 posted on 01/21/2008 11:18:00 AM PST by Drew68
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To: 2banana

Sometimes stupidity hurts.


54 posted on 01/21/2008 11:21:07 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: vpintheak
My deal is sanity. In the auld school sense of that word. Sane in body, sane in mind, sane in morals, sane in spirit.

These things are not unknown to you, nor unknown to you although evidently distant from you, is how bad a job can be for a person.

How valuable is a person's health? If a person is very miserable or depressed in a job -- from stress, from boredom, from being ostracized, from abuse, from a deep sense of not being "all you can be", that person is not sane. Not healthy. Sick.

When you switched jobs it may well be -- your responses seem to suggest it -- that you were looking for career advancement. You switched positions for career reasons. Not health reasons! Yes, let's talk about SANITY.

I asked questions -- which you refuse to answer, and yes, perhaps the answer is too personal. So? Generalize, give some reasoned answer, not a denial. Your answer was a denial.

Did you leave your prior positions in order to keep your sanity or in order to advance your career? Choose one! The answer that best fits, please.

55 posted on 01/21/2008 11:21:40 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

What sort of crazy career do you have that a job threatens your sanity?

If a person’s only responsibility is himself and he wants to take a risk, go for it. For anyone who has family dependent on him, what you suggest is selfishness.


56 posted on 01/21/2008 11:26:29 AM PST by JenB
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To: BurbankKarl; vpintheak

BurbankKarl paid a price to stay morally sane. A person can’t work in with a company of crooks and expect to stay morally sane. He quit a job with crooks. But he has from it some current sanity, bought and paid for.


57 posted on 01/21/2008 11:29:05 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

“(1) Just how unhappy were you in any job that you thereupon left for another? By unhappy I mean by some externalized measure known to you. For example did you get ever depressed to the point of counseling or medication, unable to otherwise engage life — withdrawing from previously favorite friends, pastimes, clubs, hobbies, etc., or even did you ever become physically sick from job stress?”

Yes — In one case I had an abusive boss, who felt threatened by me. (I could have replaced him and he was not terribly competent.) That was high stress, with little room for error. In another, I put on 25 pounds (I eat as a stress-coping mechanism.) There were other jobs, where I remained, where I also encountered high-stress situations. (One in particular was another abusive supervisor. In that case, however, circumstances were such that I successfuly built a case against the supervisor, and *he* was replaced, obviating the need to change jobs.)

“(2) Just how “misfit” were you in any job you had? Again, if you could give some externalized measure, to go beyond inner feelings.”

Beside the abusive boss, there was one job where I did not belong to the “in-group.” The “in-group” had all worked at one specific government agency together before cashing in and becoming government contractors. Those outside it got crumbs as far as the work went. After a year it became apparent that I would only be used for the maintenance work, instead of the technical stuff I had been hired to do, so I began looking elsewhere.

As it was I had just received an offer from another company when my then-curent employer found out I was looking for work, and began procedings to fire me for cause (how dare he be so ungrateful to us?). I went on to a very successful 11-year stretch at my new company, where I received numerous promotions and awards. Had I waited until I got fired before looking for work, or left because “I didn’t fit,” the new company probably would not have hired me.

So yeah, my entire work history has illustrated (to me, at least) that only an idiot leaves one job before landing the next one. Your experiences may differ, but I’ll go by mine.


58 posted on 01/21/2008 11:30:04 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I hear porn pays well. lol.


59 posted on 01/21/2008 11:30:20 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: JenB
What a wicked idea of selfishness! If the mainstay is broken, the whole ship flounders. It is not selfish for a person to protect his health and sanities -- mental sanity, moral sanity, even if that means quitting. Yes, it is nice to *think* -- plenty of thinkers here -- that one can find an alternate comparable position first, but there can be conditions were that can not be done in time!

That's speaking of extreme cases of risk to health, which are NOT rare, btw. Better to live another day as a poor man and a poor family.

I also suggest that people delude themselves about how acceptable, or tolerable a bad job is just because it pays well, and their spending habits and family's spending habits have adjusted to same. And by "bad job" in this latter case I include jobs where you are not all that you can be -- were your personal "pursuit of happiness" has stalled, become atrophied. In those cases, I beg you to quit, come hazard and havoc, yet bear to it and grow.

And then, if you are too sensitively constituted to withstand such a bold course, then at least have some respect and even admiration for those who do! For they are still trying, were you have stopped, and found "tolerable" to be enough of a comfort.

60 posted on 01/21/2008 11:39:33 AM PST by bvw
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