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OFFICIAL SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY THREAD

Posted on 01/19/2008 6:06:01 AM PST by vikingd00d

Today is the day.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008; fred; frednumberone; fredthompson; gofredgo; gop; nothuckabubba; notmccain; notmitt; primary; sc2008; southcarolina; thompson
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Nobody else will say this...so I will. Evangelicals are sure looking stupid this election season.

U.S. Army Retired


2,341 posted on 01/19/2008 6:28:04 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: B Knotts

Good point...


2,342 posted on 01/19/2008 6:28:14 PM PST by Fawn (FRED 2008)
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To: Bushbacker1

When many were bailing out on Iraq, McCain strongl backed the Surge and the war and now we won. When they asked him if his strong support for the war will make him lose the elections he said: “ I would rather lose an election than lose the war”, that is what make him a “great Commander in Chief”.


2,343 posted on 01/19/2008 6:28:19 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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Girl on CNN saying that its over for the Huckster and he is just running for VP! LOL


2,344 posted on 01/19/2008 6:28:24 PM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: BCrago66

No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.

With any of the other canidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.

With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.

Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.

Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?

How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.

Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook

McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.

McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.

Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!

McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.

At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.


2,345 posted on 01/19/2008 6:28:36 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: Jim Robinson

Going to Romney. I’m now convinced that Thompson was/is running to split the conservative vote and help McCain. Just like the drive-by media, we have been snookered by someone who supported McCain in 2000, voted for “Campaign Finance Reform”, and ran a lackluster campaing that managed only to garner enough support to help McCain. That’s no accident if you ask me.


2,346 posted on 01/19/2008 6:28:44 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: sageb1

“No he wouldn’t. There is little uncertainty about McShamnesty.”

We say that now... We can hope that McCain isn’t the nominee. But if he is, conservatives will have to decide whether they’re willing to take his 68% ACU rating, or if that 32% is awful enough for them to sit the election out or vote 3rd party. Let’s be clear on this - the man many posters here backed, Fred Thompson, was part and parcel of campaign finance reform. That leaves amnesty as John McCain’s weak point, and I believe his military background would offset this in a general versus even more amnesty oriented candidates such as Hillary and Obama.


2,347 posted on 01/19/2008 6:28:49 PM PST by COgamer
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To: Anti-Hillary

Free Media.


2,348 posted on 01/19/2008 6:29:06 PM PST by HonestConservative (Shut the Huck Up)
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To: conservativeinferno

Forgive me all but it’s time to root for Rooty to take FL if that is WTA. Either him or Romney but with all the Seniors down there I would guess it would have to be Rooty. Please burst this McLame bubble.


2,349 posted on 01/19/2008 6:29:09 PM PST by Hattie
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To: restornu

could we stop it. We aren’t going to snark Thompson into leaving, or his supporters into switching.


2,350 posted on 01/19/2008 6:29:09 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: LucyJo

No- he didn’t say which hospital and he didn’t say what is wrong with her.


2,351 posted on 01/19/2008 6:29:19 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: big'ol_freeper
That should get you a reaction.

Don the flame suit....batten down the hatches.

2,352 posted on 01/19/2008 6:29:27 PM PST by Dog
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I live in Florida and I’m voting for Fred, most loser RINOs in this state won’t though.


2,353 posted on 01/19/2008 6:29:32 PM PST by darkangel82 (And the band played on....)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Ditto!


2,354 posted on 01/19/2008 6:29:38 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Officially Fredbacker1 but don't know how to change my name)
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To: HonestConservative

57/114 depending.

“If, as expected, the Republican National Committee decides to penalize the Florida Republican Party for holding its primary before the RNC-sanctioned window opens in February, two men — only two men — could determine which presidential candidate is allocated the remaining 57 delegates.
They are Gov. Charlie Crist and his representative, Jim Greer, the chairman of the state committee.”

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/florida_two_men_57_delegates.php

How do you spell L-A-W-Y-E-R?


2,355 posted on 01/19/2008 6:29:40 PM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!! || Fred - "the Best Dick Cheney ever")
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To: Jim Robinson

“GO, FRed, GO!! Onward to Florida!!”

Ditto!


2,356 posted on 01/19/2008 6:30:04 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: jveritas

I don’t like John’s opposition to waterboarding. But I hear that Al Quida like John for it!


2,357 posted on 01/19/2008 6:30:08 PM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: Richard Kimball

Cause those darned blue staters keep running from their high taxes to our red states. Then they vote blue again. Idiots.


2,358 posted on 01/19/2008 6:30:10 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: RatsDawg

Al Qaeda worst enemy will be John McCain.


2,359 posted on 01/19/2008 6:31:10 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Fawn

Fred is my man, but his campaign was poorly managed. Huck came in and filled that void. The sheeple bought it. I am sick to see Fred do so poorly.

I do have to say though, the media in the last 2 weeks have gone out of their way to ignore and dis Fred.


2,360 posted on 01/19/2008 6:31:10 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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