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Public 'threatened' by private-firearms ownership
Los Angeles Times. ^ | January 14, 2008 | WND

Posted on 01/14/2008 5:41:31 AM PST by servantboy777

Since "unrestricted' private ownership of guns clearly threatens the public safety, the 2nd Amendment can be interpreted to allow a variety of gun restrictions, according to the Bush administration.

The argument was delivered by U.S. Solicitor General Paul D. Clement in a brief filed with the U.S. Supreme Court in the ongoing arguments over the legality of a District of Columbia ban on handguns in homes, according to a report from the Los Angeles Times.

Clement suggested that gun rights are limited and subject to "reasonable regulation" and said all federal limits on guns should be upheld.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 2takeawayyourrights; 4thecommongood; armedcitizen; banglist; ccw; dc; doj; parker; phaedra; rkba; scotus
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To: Drew68

And he’ll do it by poking a stick in the collective eyes of those who supported him the strongest.


61 posted on 01/14/2008 6:56:28 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: tacticalogic
The bureaucrats may well have reason to feel threatened by private ownership of guns.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I am very sure they do, they have been refusing the implimentation of presidential policy on the WOT, and Congressional fiats on Illegal Aliens for years as well as the enforcement of existing laws on illegal aliens.

They do not want the electorate to have any resort to self protection, or even revolution, in response to their rule by an alleged moral superiority.

Generally the liberal socialist bureaucrats need their clocks cleaned and reset. I would support Dubyah's firing of the entire federal civil service, and a rehiring of those who will get the job done.

62 posted on 01/14/2008 6:58:37 AM PST by Candor7
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To: servantboy777
Since "unrestricted' private ownership of guns clearly threatens the public safety, the 2nd Amendment can be interpreted to allow a variety of gun restrictions, according to the Bush administration.

WTF?

63 posted on 01/14/2008 7:03:06 AM PST by Centurion2000 (It's only arrogance if you can't back it up.)
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To: P8riot
They keep acting as if they really do want a revolt.

It would not surprise me if the more radical leftists did.

It would give those in Government all the excuse they needed to turn the right wing supported military inwards, on the most patriotic of the American people, and consolidate power at a pace unheard of since the 1930s in Europe.

With the computer (sales and other records), modern communications (and the ability to monitor and disrupt those communications), it would be theoretically possible to have the groundwork done (if it isn't already) and be at many firearm owners' doorsteps in short order.

Pay cash, get a receipt, or horsetrade. All else is traceable. At least you can deprive them of a complete inventory list.

64 posted on 01/14/2008 7:03:17 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: SW6906

i dunno about the “can’t have too many guns” part.
one of my friends introduced me to his collection.
838.
when do you get the time to shoot that many? i have.. well, we’ll say more than a dozen, less than 2.. and i can’t seem to find time to shoot them all on a regular basis. altho i suppose if i spent less time with my .44 (4,000rds last year) and my AR (3,000rds) and i’m not even gonna try and count my .22’s- i might shoot everything else more :)


65 posted on 01/14/2008 7:05:00 AM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: Travis McGee
Correct.


66 posted on 01/14/2008 7:08:19 AM PST by relictele
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To: absolootezer0
if you have to rent a second storage unit just for your guns, you may have too many.

You might want to consider purchasing a building...

if its too big to haul behind your F350 duallie.. it may be too big.

Time to get that class 'A' license...

if you need mechanical assistance to lift your handgun...

Consider a vehicle mount on your 'mobility product'...

...the capacity may be too high.

The only time you have 'too much' ammo is if you are on fire...

but those should be common sense rules, not laws. :)

Absolutely! (8^D)

67 posted on 01/14/2008 7:09:45 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Have your sister put a sign in front of her house that says — “no guns in this house”. You can extrapolate that to “no guns in this country”, and you get England and their escalating crime rate — now exceeds US per capita.

She will change her mind shortly.


68 posted on 01/14/2008 7:10:43 AM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Feebies and other “law over principle” types hate us and use the term “Constitutionalist” as a pejorative.

I found out long ago that too many in Government view Morris Dees' bunch (SPLC) as "authoritative" when it comes down to who thinks what, and even some on this site have quoted some of that spew.

Yep, there are some folks out there I disagree with and would not want running the show, but plenty more who are demonized by leftist hate mongers who are considered to be purveyors of gospel.

69 posted on 01/14/2008 7:30:52 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: servantboy777

What a liberal POS Bush has become. I feel like I may as well have voted for Kerry.


70 posted on 01/14/2008 7:31:43 AM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: RetiredArmy
Thus, I will not vote for a lesser evil.

Bears repeating.

People here keep saying that if I don't then Hillary wins.

The scary part is that they were saying this months before the first primary!

Do you tell me that if we vote in a RINO that we win? I don't think so.

Me either. Every time we compromise, we lose, every time we give up a plank in the platform, we have less to stand on.

71 posted on 01/14/2008 7:41:03 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: servantboy777
Given the unquestionable threat to public safety that unrestricted private firearm possession would entail, various categories of firearm-related regulation are permitted by the 2nd Amendment," he wrote in the brief, the Times reported.

There ya go, he says it's unquestionable, therefore it must be true.

Unquestionably, violent crime in D.C. has plummeted since the gun ban. Right?

This is why the educrats want a dumbed-down publik, so we won't question anything.

72 posted on 01/14/2008 7:42:27 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: RetiredArmy
This time, we know we only have Thompson and Hunter. The others are KNOWN RINOs.

Yep, but there's no hope for Hunter making the cut and I'm not much more optimistic about Fred's chances.

This latest Repub outrage does it for me. Republicans are royally betraying the same people who put them in office, and I for one have had more than enough of it. I have been a registered, voting Republican since JFK was in office, but after this primary I intend to change my registration to Independent. Without the votes of gun owners Bush would not have been elected either time, and now he stabs us in the back like this. I'm totally disgusted with him and the GOP.

I think I am just ready for the Good Lord to end all this and bring us home. This place sickens me.

I couldn't agree more. I feel sick in the pit of my stomach right now after reading this article. In the Reagan years I used to think that maybe the US wasn't hopeless after all and that it could be turned around and brought back to the principles and ideals of our founding fathers if we kept electing Republicans. But now I see I was wrong, Reagan's presidency was a once in a lifetime happening that won't be repeated. The Bushes of both generations are untrustworthy RINOs, and the majority of the American people are total idiots who have no clue what's good for them and seem determined to punish the few of us who do.

Get ready to be shafted again and even worse than Bush is doing it, because the idiot Repub voters are going to nominate another RINO who will if elected will probably betray us on more issues than the one we have now. But when I think of Bush's betrayal of his FORMER supporters like me by shoving illegal Mexicans down our throats and refusing to pardon the two border guards who are locked up in solitary for doing their jobs, I find it hard to believe that even the worst of the RINO candidates would be a bigger disapointment than Bush. But whatever, I won't vote for any of the GOP candidates except Thompson or Hunter, if it's any of the other treacherous, lying RINOs I'll vote for a 3rd party.

73 posted on 01/14/2008 7:48:20 AM PST by epow (Isn't it odd how the hardest working people seem to get all the lucky breaks?)
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To: absolootezer0

What about people that have underground bunkers for their arsenal?


74 posted on 01/14/2008 7:52:36 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: wastedyears

*everyone* should have one of those. :)


75 posted on 01/14/2008 7:54:17 AM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: epow

Re your post at 73, I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU. I AM 1000000000000000000000000000% BEHIND WHAT YOU SAID. YOU SAID WHAT I SEE AND FEEL. I fully agree. I will not vote for a RINO. I am SICK of HAVING to pick between a Marxist and a socialist RINO. I am TIRED of having to pick the lesser of the evils. I am simply sick and tired of looking at candidates, throwing up my hands, and saying, IS THIS THE BEST AMERICA HAS TO OFFER TO RUN OUR COUNTY????? GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK!!!!!! I am sick of it. I am tired of these people here to whine that I have to vote for our RINO or Hillary gets elected. In my book, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE??? Hillary, Obama, the Hulkster, Rudy, McScream, Bush, there is NO DIFFERENCE in any of them. They are in it for the power, and screw us. I am about ready for the armed conflict. I think the ONLY way we will ever return America to the Republic which was formed, One Nation, UNDER GOD, IS FOR ANOTHER REVOLUTION!!! Of course, now the storm troopers of the imperial federal government will come to my home, armed to the teeth, break in, kill me if I resist, and take me prisoner, for talking about overthrowing the imperial federal government. ISN’T THAT WHAT WE DID IN THE FIRST PLACE TO FORM THIS COUNTRY???? Throw the stinking British bastards out and form our own Republic??? Now, we are right back to where we were in 1776. Only this time, the enemy is totally within. The enemy calls itself Americans. But, by god, they are not my fellow Americans. I see them as the enemy.


76 posted on 01/14/2008 7:56:48 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Me either. Every time we compromise, we lose, every time we give up a plank in the platform, we have less to stand on.

Exactly. I have had enough, and this is the final straw. After almost 50 years of voting straight Republican I'm through with the party and it's RINOs like Bush turned out to be.

Voting for RINOs to keep the Democrats away from government makes about as much sense to me as buying a hungry lion to keep the wolves away from a flock of sheep.

77 posted on 01/14/2008 8:00:42 AM PST by epow (Isn't it odd how the hardest working people seem to get all the lucky breaks?)
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To: RetiredArmy
Now, we are right back to where we were in 1776.

I think that the case can be made that we were actually freer before the revolution than we are now.

79 posted on 01/14/2008 8:04:04 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: servantboy777

Bush betrays us again. It really shouldn’t be surprising anymore.


80 posted on 01/14/2008 8:04:13 AM PST by DesScorp
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