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Public 'threatened' by private-firearms ownership
Los Angeles Times. ^ | January 14, 2008 | WND

Posted on 01/14/2008 5:41:31 AM PST by servantboy777

Since "unrestricted' private ownership of guns clearly threatens the public safety, the 2nd Amendment can be interpreted to allow a variety of gun restrictions, according to the Bush administration.

The argument was delivered by U.S. Solicitor General Paul D. Clement in a brief filed with the U.S. Supreme Court in the ongoing arguments over the legality of a District of Columbia ban on handguns in homes, according to a report from the Los Angeles Times.

Clement suggested that gun rights are limited and subject to "reasonable regulation" and said all federal limits on guns should be upheld.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 2takeawayyourrights; 4thecommongood; armedcitizen; banglist; ccw; dc; doj; parker; phaedra; rkba; scotus
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To: TMSuchman
>>I am more afraid of an out of control goveremnt, than a fellow citzen who is packing!”

Yeah, me too!

I remember waking up a few years ago to let my puppy out while visiting in Florida. I noticed one early morning, what looked like lightening through the blinds where we were staying.

I peeked outside just in time to catch the action across the street as black masked, heavily armed, small army descended upon this house.

They ultimately removed one sleeping biker and his lady friend for drugs.

I thought to myself....why the hell did they need that much force and why were they dressed like paramilitary?

161 posted on 01/14/2008 6:09:40 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: montag813

By in large the republican party has supported Bush.....now that’s scary.

The GOP is NOT the party I have supported in the past. They’ll have a hard time garnering my support in the future unless they start moving conservative once again.


162 posted on 01/14/2008 6:12:38 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: El Gato

Ours will be a higher number than the entirety of the last century.


163 posted on 01/14/2008 6:13:55 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: demshateGod

Ammo would be better measured in tonnage.


164 posted on 01/14/2008 6:15:46 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Did you notice the balaclava covered both of his eyes and his mouth?


165 posted on 01/14/2008 6:30:10 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Doomonyou

Oh my God I think I’m in love.


166 posted on 01/14/2008 6:36:13 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: servantboy777

Heck, 4 regular Army guys could replace a dozen SWAT. Easily


167 posted on 01/14/2008 6:37:56 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: XenaLee

I didn’t try anything in 2006. I voted and I don’t vote third party. However, what we are currently doing, and have done for the past 15 years, isn’t working. Sometimes, radical surgery is called for.
Are you through being hysterical yet? Are you done being condescending and arrogant?


168 posted on 01/14/2008 6:54:53 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: demshateGod
BAAARRRFFF! A pump action AR? Never.

There's a single shot AR variant as well.

DPMS Panther Single shot

The Pump version

"No pistol grip version" stock from California Rifles.

Fixed Magazine version (from CaliforniaBushmaster)

169 posted on 01/14/2008 8:35:49 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: William Tell
"Compelling state interests" is one of the criteria of "strict scrutiny" if I recall correctly.

Yes, but only one of them. For the typc of scrutiny the DoJ says is appropriate for the second amendment, heightened security, it's the *only* one required.

170 posted on 01/14/2008 8:37:54 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: demshateGod
I’ll get 80,000 rounds, oh wait, that’ll get me in trouble too.

There's a fellow calling himself "tmoore45acp" posting on the CMP Forums who claims he's got 191,000 rounds loaded and another 72,000 cases waiting to be loaded.

171 posted on 01/14/2008 8:39:51 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: servantboy777

Since “unrestricted’ private ownership of guns
clearly threatens the public “Masters” safety,
they must be restricted to public officials,
police, military and a few hunters./S

Even in the USSR, some hunters were allowed
single shot smooth bores with type and quantity
of ammunition restricted.


172 posted on 01/14/2008 8:43:20 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: wastedyears

Enfield magazines are removable, but typically they aren’t removed; they are loaded from the top, either singly or by stripper-clips.


173 posted on 01/14/2008 8:43:31 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee
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174 posted on 01/14/2008 8:45:39 PM PST by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: demshateGod
BAAARRRFFF! A pump action AR? Never

Actually of all the abortions constructed to get around the California ban, I think I'd like the pump the best. You can do aimed fire with a pump pretty much as fast as you can a semi-auto, with a little practice. And you don't have to give up the other stuff, like the pistol grip, the flash hider, and even the evil bayonet lug. Clearing jams is easier too.

But maybe I'm prejudiced, since I for a long time the only guns I owned were pump action shotguns. I'd shot .22 semi-auto rifles before then, but I didn't own them as I did the shotguns (from age 14 up to my present advanced age). Of course since the 5.56 doesn't recoil much you don't take as long for the follow up aimed shots, like one does with a 12 gauge, double, pump, or autoloader. (Actually my very first shotgun, which was only borrowed until Christmas when I got the pump, was a bolt action 16 gauge, follow up shots when wing shooting with that beast was a challenge. I didn't get a single bird with it. :) )

175 posted on 01/14/2008 8:48:01 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
There's a single shot AR variant as well.

Which for some reason I can't get to show up.

But here's the link to the DPMS Panther single shot

176 posted on 01/14/2008 9:04:55 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
El Gato said: "For the typc of scrutiny the DoJ says is appropriate for the second amendment, heightened security, it's the *only* one required."

I might have to read it again to comment confidently.

But I thought that the "reasonable regulation" claim was equivalent to "rational basis"; that is, the government need only show that there is a reason for the law. It isn't even necessary to show that the law would be effective.

"Compelling state interest" would at least create a burden on the state to demonstrate that the laws are effective. I'm certainly not aware of any felon who decided not to commit another crime because he couldn't get a gun. How would one prove that a waiting period was beneficial without considering both the cooling off effect, if any, and the effect of denying a person a needed weapon for days.

Even the machinegun ban fails, since the number of crimes committed prior to the ban on manufacture was miniscule.

177 posted on 01/14/2008 9:08:59 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yeah, that’s exactly what I was thinking.


178 posted on 01/14/2008 9:11:10 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: El Gato
El Gato said: "Actually of all the abortions constructed to get around the California ban, I think I'd like the pump the best."

Can you describe one?

I thought that a pump-action required a blunt-nosed round so that the rounds could be lined up without a primer being hit by the point of another round. Is there such a "blunt-nosed" .223? How many rounds can such a pump .223 hold?

179 posted on 01/14/2008 9:15:29 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: faloi

All your guns belong to us!


180 posted on 01/14/2008 9:25:48 PM PST by dvan
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