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To: demshateGod
BAAARRRFFF! A pump action AR? Never

Actually of all the abortions constructed to get around the California ban, I think I'd like the pump the best. You can do aimed fire with a pump pretty much as fast as you can a semi-auto, with a little practice. And you don't have to give up the other stuff, like the pistol grip, the flash hider, and even the evil bayonet lug. Clearing jams is easier too.

But maybe I'm prejudiced, since I for a long time the only guns I owned were pump action shotguns. I'd shot .22 semi-auto rifles before then, but I didn't own them as I did the shotguns (from age 14 up to my present advanced age). Of course since the 5.56 doesn't recoil much you don't take as long for the follow up aimed shots, like one does with a 12 gauge, double, pump, or autoloader. (Actually my very first shotgun, which was only borrowed until Christmas when I got the pump, was a bolt action 16 gauge, follow up shots when wing shooting with that beast was a challenge. I didn't get a single bird with it. :) )

175 posted on 01/14/2008 8:48:01 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
El Gato said: "Actually of all the abortions constructed to get around the California ban, I think I'd like the pump the best."

Can you describe one?

I thought that a pump-action required a blunt-nosed round so that the rounds could be lined up without a primer being hit by the point of another round. Is there such a "blunt-nosed" .223? How many rounds can such a pump .223 hold?

179 posted on 01/14/2008 9:15:29 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: El Gato
Nevermind. I'm on a slow dialup and didn't see that you posted a picture of a DPMS pump action AR. I see that it does take what appears to be standard AR magazines.

Since it is not semi-automatic, I presume that it is Kalifornia legal. It's ironic that we have the FFL infringement in Kalifornia to help keep us out of trouble with respect to all the other infringements. It takes a lot of expertise to know what's legal here anymore.

181 posted on 01/14/2008 9:35:28 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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