Great Britain: Organs to be taken without consent (PM Brown favors "presumed consent" )

The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | January 12, 2008 | Patrick Hennessy and Laura Donnelly

[Stoat]

Organs to be taken without consent

By Patrick Hennessy and Laura Donnelly
 

Last Updated: 9:21pm GMT 12/01/2008

 

 

Gordon Brown has thrown his weight behind a move to allow hospitals to take organs from dead patients without explicit consent.

• 	There are more than 8,000 patients waiting for an organ donation

  Writing in The Sunday Telegraph, the Prime Minister says that such a facility would save thousands of lives and that he hopes such a system can start this year.
  
  The proposals would mean consent for organ donation after death would be automatically presumed, unless individuals had opted out of the national register or family members objected.
  
  But patients' groups said that they were "totally opposed" to Mr Brown's plan, saying that it would take away patients' rights over their own bodies.
  
  There are more than 8,000 patients waiting for an organ donation and more than 1,000 a year die without receiving the organ that could save their lives.

  The Government will launch an overhaul of the system next week, which will put pressure on doctors and nurses to identify more "potential organ donors" from dying patients. Hospitals will be rated for the number of deceased patients they "convert" into donors and doctors will be expected to identify potential donors earlier and alert donor co-ordinators as patients approach death.

  But Mr Brown, who carries a donor card, has made it clear he backs an even more radical revamp of the system, which would lead to donation by "presumed consent". The approach is modelled on that of Spain, which has the highest proportion of organ donors in the world.

  "A system of this kind seems to have the potential to close the aching gap between the potential benefits of transplant surgery in the UK and the limits imposed by our current system of consent," Mr Brown writes.

  He voted against such a system in 2004 - but sources close to the Prime Minister said last night that the measure proposed then was a much harder version of his latest plan, without families having the final say.

  Patients' groups said that they were appalled by Mr Brown's intervention. "They call it presumed consent, but it is no consent at all," said Joyce Robin, from the watchdog Patient Concern. "They are relying on inertia and ignorance to get the results that they want." She said that the

  Government had made little effort to get people to register to give up organs after death. "Where is the big media campaign, where are the leaflets? Why, when I go to see my GP, doesn't he ask me about organ donation? These are the things they should be doing - not taking away our right to decide what happens to our bodies."

  Katherine Murphy, of the Patients Association charity, agreed. "We don't think a private decision, which is a matter of individual conscience, should be taken by the state. If people want to give the gift of life, that is their right, but it must be something that is a voluntary matter. "

  While polls show 90 per cent of Britons are in favour of organ donation, 40 per cent of relatives refuse consent for the organs of their relatives to be donated, a figure which rises to 75 per cent among black and ethnic minorities. To solve this, the organ taskforce plans measures to boost donation, including putting pressure on doctors to identify patients as potential donors before they have died.

  The taskforce report - to be released on Tuesday - calls for a senior doctor to be appointed in every hospital as a "champion" of donation, along with a lay person to spread the message about the importance of donation locally.

  The force, which is to publish a report on "presumed consent" this summer, hopes its 14 recommendations will lead to 50 per cent more donations in five years.

  It admits to a possible "conflict of interest" between medical staff, trying to save lives and those keen to ensure every possible organ is harvested. Dr Kevin Gunning, an intensive care consultant at Addenbrooke's Hospital, Cambridge, and a member of the UK Transplant's advisory group, said the measures could put doctors and relatives under pressure. "If, as a doctor you have turned your thoughts to your patient being a donor when they are still living, that is a real conflict."

  Dr Bruce Taylor, of the Intensive Care Society warned that early indicators of death were not reliable. "The only way to be sure is to do all the tests which show brain stem death; anything in advance of that is only a prediction."

  But Chris Rudge, of UK Transplant, the authority in charge of organ donation and transplant, insisted patients would not be considered as donors at any point where survival was possible.

[reformedliberal]

Who defines *possible*??

[Young Scholar]

Skip the public information campaign and change the system so organ donors get priority if they need transplants. There should be plenty of volunteers.

[Diogenesis]

Next step: why not let the EU sell organs of citizens,
to compete with China’s prisons’ organ sales,
from hospitals in countries failing their carbon credit payments?

[Stoat]

Thank you very much for pinging your list  :-)

[longtermmemmory]

imagine if they start to say you have a kidney donor draft.

YOU MUST donate a kidney if your are compatable. no choice.

[billorites]

"Next step: why not let the EU sell organs of citizens, to compete with China’s prisons’ organ sales"

Well, it's always a matter of being able to demonstrate unencumbered clear title to the asset one is offering for sale. After all, you can only sell your liver once and not to a succession of people like in some cheesy Florida land swindle.

But in principle I like the idea. Kind of a kidney-carbon offset thingy.

We can bundle the principal and interest streams separately and sell them to CALPERS. I'm in!

[Stoat]

That’s the merit of Euro-healthcare... LOL.

"It admits to a possible "conflict of interest" between medical staff, trying to save lives and those keen to ensure every possible organ is harvested. "

Whew!  I'm so relieved to learn that it's only a "possible" conflict of interest.

Surely nothing will come of it then.  After all, when hospitals are 'rated' as to their "donated" organ output, there certainly is not any particular motivation to push things along, is there?

[billorites]

"imagine if they start to say you have a kidney donor draft."

We already have one. It's called teenage drivers.

[matt1234]

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

[Stoat]

Even though this isn’t necessarily pertaining to Dentistry, I thought that you might be interested. :-)

[Old Professer]

What’s next, rolling back the speedometer?

[Continental Soldier]

Sounds a little like our own Hillary. :)

[Sacajaweau]

And you working folks are gonna have to pay for the transplant surgery, too.

[tcrlaf]

Just a natural progression of Socialized Medicine...

And it’s not a very bg jump to go from there, to LIVING donors without thier consent..

After all, it’ll be “For The CHILDREN!!”

[Blood of Tyrants]

It is only a small step from taking organs from the dead without permission to taking them from people in an unrecoverable coma.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

There is far too much money to be made in the organ transplant business to allow something as trifling as the consent of the harvestees to stand in the way.

As far a I am concerned, the entire transplant industry is continuing criminal enterprise.

The quality of life of recipients is usually quite low, plus they are usually bankrupt from all the hospital bills, plus they can't get health insurance any more, much less jobs.

A liver transplant costs $314,600 the first year, and $21,900 per year every year afterwards.

Financial Matters: Liver Transplant Costs

I don't see where there is a right to a transplant, but that's where socialized medicine will take us, and it will eventually make us all slaves to the health care system.

[Stoat]

Who defines *possible*??

The same people who inform you that you are not allowed to receive kidney dialysis treatment because statistics show that a person in your specific condition may only be benefited by this treatment "somewhat" and it may only extend your life by a very few years, perhaps less than two decades.

[aviator]

I refuse to donate any of my organs unless my family is compensated by a hefty sum.

[NonValueAdded]

To solve this, the organ taskforce plans measures to boost donation, including putting pressure on doctors to identify patients as potential donors before they have died.

Ah, tissue-typing patients ... will that change the level of care a patient receives? Shades of Coma

[mdmathis6]

That’s alright ...none of us want your “organ”, especially after its been in your cold dead hands for a while!