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Great Britain: Organs to be taken without consent (PM Brown favors "presumed consent" )
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | January 12, 2008 | Patrick Hennessy and Laura Donnelly

Posted on 01/12/2008 1:45:31 PM PST by Stoat

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To: Stoat

Who defines *possible*??


21 posted on 01/12/2008 2:04:24 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Skip the public information campaign and change the system so organ donors get priority if they need transplants. There should be plenty of volunteers.


22 posted on 01/12/2008 2:05:14 PM PST by Young Scholar
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To: billorites

Next step: why not let the EU sell organs of citizens,
to compete with China’s prisons’ organ sales,
from hospitals in countries failing their carbon credit payments?


23 posted on 01/12/2008 2:05:29 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: wagglebee
Thank you very much for pinging your list  :-)

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24 posted on 01/12/2008 2:06:06 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: live+let_live

imagine if they start to say you have a kidney donor draft.

YOU MUST donate a kidney if your are compatable. no choice.


25 posted on 01/12/2008 2:08:20 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Diogenesis
"Next step: why not let the EU sell organs of citizens, to compete with China’s prisons’ organ sales"

Well, it's always a matter of being able to demonstrate unencumbered clear title to the asset one is offering for sale. After all, you can only sell your liver once and not to a succession of people like in some cheesy Florida land swindle.

But in principle I like the idea. Kind of a kidney-carbon offset thingy.

We can bundle the principal and interest streams separately and sell them to CALPERS. I'm in!

26 posted on 01/12/2008 2:11:58 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: SolidWood
That’s the merit of Euro-healthcare... LOL.

"It admits to a possible "conflict of interest" between medical staff, trying to save lives and those keen to ensure every possible organ is harvested. "

Whew!  I'm so relieved to learn that it's only a "possible" conflict of interest.

Surely nothing will come of it then.  After all, when hospitals are 'rated' as to their "donated" organ output, there certainly is not any particular motivation to push things along, is there?

27 posted on 01/12/2008 2:14:22 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: longtermmemmory
"imagine if they start to say you have a kidney donor draft."

We already have one. It's called teenage drivers.

28 posted on 01/12/2008 2:15:15 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Stoat

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

29 posted on 01/12/2008 2:20:00 PM PST by matt1234
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To: theDentist

Even though this isn’t necessarily pertaining to Dentistry, I thought that you might be interested. :-)


30 posted on 01/12/2008 2:21:33 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

What’s next, rolling back the speedometer?


31 posted on 01/12/2008 2:23:42 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Traveler59

Sounds a little like our own Hillary. :)


32 posted on 01/12/2008 2:24:52 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: matt1234

And you working folks are gonna have to pay for the transplant surgery, too.


33 posted on 01/12/2008 2:26:31 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Stoat

Just a natural progression of Socialized Medicine...

And it’s not a very bg jump to go from there, to LIVING donors without thier consent..

After all, it’ll be “For The CHILDREN!!”


34 posted on 01/12/2008 2:29:25 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

It is only a small step from taking organs from the dead without permission to taking them from people in an unrecoverable coma.


35 posted on 01/12/2008 2:30:40 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Stoat
There is far too much money to be made in the organ transplant business to allow something as trifling as the consent of the harvestees to stand in the way.

As far a I am concerned, the entire transplant industry is continuing criminal enterprise.

The quality of life of recipients is usually quite low, plus they are usually bankrupt from all the hospital bills, plus they can't get health insurance any more, much less jobs.

A liver transplant costs $314,600 the first year, and $21,900 per year every year afterwards.

Financial Matters: Liver Transplant Costs

I don't see where there is a right to a transplant, but that's where socialized medicine will take us, and it will eventually make us all slaves to the health care system.

36 posted on 01/12/2008 2:33:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: reformedliberal
Who defines *possible*??

The same people who inform you that you are not allowed to receive kidney dialysis treatment because statistics show that a person in your specific condition may only be benefited by this treatment "somewhat" and it may only extend your life by a very few years, perhaps less than two decades.

37 posted on 01/12/2008 2:34:50 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: billorites

I refuse to donate any of my organs unless my family is compensated by a hefty sum.


38 posted on 01/12/2008 2:40:36 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Stoat
To solve this, the organ taskforce plans measures to boost donation, including putting pressure on doctors to identify patients as potential donors before they have died.

Ah, tissue-typing patients ... will that change the level of care a patient receives? Shades of Coma

39 posted on 01/12/2008 2:41:41 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: RichInOC

That’s alright ...none of us want your “organ”, especially after its been in your cold dead hands for a while!


40 posted on 01/12/2008 2:42:50 PM PST by mdmathis6
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