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My Fellow Evangelicals Blow It By Supporting Mike Huckabee
North Star Writers Group ^ | January 8, 2008 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 01/08/2008 5:56:29 AM PST by Invisigoth

Secular America looks at the rise of Mike Huckabee and fears the growing influence of evangelical Christians in the political process.

This evangelical Christian columnist fears it too, for exactly the opposite reason.

Huckabee’s win in the Iowa caucuses, and his sudden viability as a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, owes to one thing and one thing only. Large numbers of evangelical voters are looking for someone to represent their values, and Huckabee is the only candidate who seems to do so.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianity; election; evangelical; mikehuckabee; openbordershuck; proillegal; valuevoter
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To: Polybius
Roe vs. Wade doesn’t have to be overturned to have a decision in favor of RTL. All the USSC has to do is find that abortion causes extreme pain to the unborn and all methods of abortion amount to cruel and unusual punishment. If that doesn’t work then every state should get their say without the feds interfering.
121 posted on 01/08/2008 8:00:24 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

>I agree that the federal government shouldn’t set up domestic policy but the federal government already has by going to the USSC overriding state decisions leaving only one option, having the federal government fix their wrongs.

Then the fix is to FORCE the issue from the Feds back to the states. You don’t write the law at the federal level to address the moral issue itself, i.e., a law that protects the rights of the states to legislate abortion as opposed to taking a side.


122 posted on 01/08/2008 8:02:23 AM PST by tortdog
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To: VRWCmember

Really drank the left’s koolaid where Falwell is concerned?

No, I talked to my two cousins who attended his college.


123 posted on 01/08/2008 8:03:01 AM PST by flowerplough (Thompson should be the next president and Reagan should be the next face on Mt. Rushmore)
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To: roses of sharon

Like I said, I sympathize with them because to them it’s not a pretend war, it’s an issue that means life in every aspect of their own life.


124 posted on 01/08/2008 8:03:08 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: cinives
Your post caused me to stop and think and for that I thank you. Many times those of us who are Christians tend to think all Christians share our values, at least all who call themselves Christian. Of course we are very wrong and the current state of the many churches with their feel good, lock step, do as I say or you’re out, socialist promoting agendas should make this readily apparent. But it is so comforting to think our churches are our sanctuaries and those who believe are to be trusted....we really shouldn’t forget what’s right before our noses.
125 posted on 01/08/2008 8:03:09 AM PST by pepperdog
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To: roamer_1

>No. I was merely speaking to your statement, giving an example proving it false.

Well, I was explaining why the example was not false. The fact that Christ left the laws intact means society can continue to legislate and punish.


126 posted on 01/08/2008 8:03:17 AM PST by tortdog
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To: Polybius

>Can a single evangelical out there supply the list of three fourths of all states in the United States of America in 2008 that would ratify EITHER a Right to Life Amendment OR a Right to Abortion Amendment?

But I COULD see 3/4s of the state pass an amendment that protected the right of the states to legislate on abortion (whether for or against).


127 posted on 01/08/2008 8:04:18 AM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog

The feds will not relinquish the issue back to the states, they have ruled and only federal legislation can change it now to get it back to the states.


128 posted on 01/08/2008 8:05:58 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: flowerplough
Really drank the left’s koolaid where Falwell is concerned?

No, I talked to my two cousins who attended his college.

Really, well based on my conversationw with friends who also attended his college, your characterization of Falwell is utter hogwash.

129 posted on 01/08/2008 8:06:29 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: RooRoobird20

I doubt it she is rabid about mental health issues and benefits to the point of being blinded.


130 posted on 01/08/2008 8:07:49 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: tobyhill

>The feds will not relinquish the issue back to the states, they have ruled and only federal legislation can change it now to get it back to the states.

They have ruled and now the only way is FOR the Feds to address the problem. I would not say “never”, though.


131 posted on 01/08/2008 8:10:25 AM PST by tortdog
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To: All
KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE BALL Social-conservatives of any kind, Religious and non-religious or even 'fiscal conservatives :)... who care for the culture of our country (ie, protecting the unborn, protecting the Militarty from the homosexual-agenda, protecting the Boys-scouts, etc).

We need EVERYONE so don't be distracted!... to have a chance in our fight with the evil-left (MSM, ACLU, Hollywood, Teachers Association, the religious LEFT :)... etc) to do this.

132 posted on 01/08/2008 8:11:41 AM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president)
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To: ElPatriota

Very true. Important message.


133 posted on 01/08/2008 8:13:16 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Badeye

Wrong, some of us learned our lesson with Carter.


134 posted on 01/08/2008 8:14:17 AM PST by Robbin
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To: tortdog

States have tried, from banning abortion to grasshopper control and has been met with federal courts siding with the grasshoppers and murderers.


135 posted on 01/08/2008 8:14:41 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tortdog
The fact that Christ left the laws intact means society can continue to legislate and punish.

If that is your point, I have no problem with that, and I would suggest that no one else does either- Who is suggesting that society cannot legislate and punish?

136 posted on 01/08/2008 8:15:38 AM PST by roamer_1 (Vote for Frudy McRomsonbee -Turn red states purple in 08!)
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To: Robbin

We’ll see shortly.


137 posted on 01/08/2008 8:19:51 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: roamer_1

It addresses Huckabee’s willingness to grant clemency to murderers and rapist who praise Jesus and claim that they have changed.

In my view, Huckabee allows his religious views to taint how the state should be acting. The state is there to ensure justice. Mercy was already factored in at the time of punishment.


138 posted on 01/08/2008 8:20:26 AM PST by tortdog
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To: Resolute Conservative

Don’t lose hope—keep working on her! :0)


139 posted on 01/08/2008 8:21:59 AM PST by RooRoobird20 (Thankfully Convered Catholic)
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To: tobyhill

Look, I recognize that states have tried and get slammed by the feds. My point is that we should not be fighting for an amendment to prohibit abortion. That would never pass 3/4s of the states.

Pass an amendment prohibiting the feds from legislating on the issue, and preserving the issue to the states to legislate on. That has a decent chance of passing. But some (often evangelicals) want nothing less than a 100% prohibition on abortion at the federal level.

Ain’t gonna happen.


140 posted on 01/08/2008 8:22:21 AM PST by tortdog
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