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Autism Rate Is Still Rising Despite Vaccine Change
Wall Street Journal ^ | 7 January 2007 | JENNIFER CORBETT DOOREN

Posted on 01/07/2008 4:23:06 PM PST by shrinkermd

Researchers at the California Department of Public Health said autism rates in that state have continued to rise despite the removal of the mercury-containing preservative thimerosal from most childhood vaccines.

The research, which is being published in this month's Archives of General Psychiatry, looked at autism rates of children ages 3 to 12 from 1995 through March 2007 who had active cases with the department, or those who were receiving services from the state for an autism disorder.

In 1999 federal health officials recommended the elimination of thimerosal from children's vaccines on concerns about a possible link to rising autism rates seen in the 1990s.

In 2004, the Institute of Medicine concluded there wasn't a relationship between the mercury-containing vaccines and autism, but recommended researchers continue looking at autism rates as thimerosal exposure dropped.

Autism is characterized as impairments in social interaction, communication, and unusual behavior and interests. The cause of the disorder isn't known, and there is no cure, although medication and therapy can improve symptoms. Other states besides California have also reported an increase in autism rates.

Federal health officials have said part of the increase in rates, which fall under a broader definition known as autism spectrum disorders and also include Asperger's syndrome and pervasive developmental disorders, may be because of better and earlier diagnosis of the problem.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: autism; mercury; psychology; thimerosal
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To: TomB
Hi Tom,

Pretty good. Madly sequencing and genotyping DNA.

These anti-vaccine folks, though, will just say it all proves how dangerous vaccines are that they can keep up their effect even in those not directly exposed to them.
41 posted on 01/08/2008 9:21:15 AM PST by aruanan
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To: exDemMom

One of my best friends has cousins who are autistic. Her pediatrician told her everything to look for in her kids for autism, particularly in her boy, based on the family history. Seems they are leaning toward genetic factors. It’s also grossly over diagnosed.


42 posted on 01/08/2008 9:27:09 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: exDemMom
The fact is that mercury is a poison to humans...why is it in the vaccines? The first Autism diagnosis was the same year that the mercury was added to vaccines....coincidence—maybe, but why play around with deadly mercury and inject it into humans??? Profit motives????? Fertility control???? Why do scientists allow it and not treat it like the danger that it is?

The startling fact: Autism symptoms and mercury poisoning are identical. That should mean something.....

43 posted on 01/08/2008 11:15:48 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: TomB
Statistics can be manipulated to produce any results you want. Could there be a profit motive for the safe claim? The fact that the mercury is in any vaccines is a crime. Children with Autism test very low levels of mercury in hair compared with non-Autistic children. After chelation, though, autistic children have much more mercury in urine. Also, Gulf War Syndrome???? (Massive shots!!!!) They found high level of mercury in bodies of sick people....

Young children have been subjected to many more shots starting in the 80s. The fact: Mercury poisoning and autism have exactly the same symptoms! My point is NO mercury in ANY vaccinations. You also can get mercury poisoning in other ways than vaccinations.

Years ago I wrote a paper in my Philosophy of Science class on a peer reviewed article in Lancet magazine....The result showed a STRONG correlation to the onset of autism and dates of vaccination. Coincidence? Maybe, but my common sense says there is a BIG link.

44 posted on 01/08/2008 11:40:50 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie; aruanan
Statistics can be manipulated to produce any results you want. Could there be a profit motive for the safe claim?

When you are forced to fall back on conspiracy theories, its time to look elsewhere.

The result showed a STRONG correlation to the onset of autism and dates of vaccination.

I guess they never taught in your PoS class that "correlation does not equal causation".

Once again I ask, since thimerosal was in vaccines for decades, why did autism rates only increase in the 80s?

45 posted on 01/08/2008 2:06:36 PM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: savagesusie
Sorry, I missed this:

Years ago I wrote a paper in my Philosophy of Science class on a peer reviewed article in Lancet magazine....

First, its interesting that you will toss aside the new study (and there have been many others recently) yet embrace an old study that supports your notions. Also, the last place you should look for a good study is the Lancet, the home of Wakefield's discredited MMR/vaccine study and even more discredited Iraq Body Count study.

The Lancet is a joke.

46 posted on 01/08/2008 2:48:30 PM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: savagesusie
The fact is that mercury is a poison to humans...why is it in the vaccines? The first Autism diagnosis was the same year that the mercury was added to vaccines....coincidence—maybe, but why play around with deadly mercury and inject it into humans??? Profit motives????? Fertility control???? Why do scientists allow it and not treat it like the danger that it is? The startling fact: Autism symptoms and mercury poisoning are identical. That should mean something.....

Anyone who knows anything about toxicology knows that the dose makes the poison. Furthermore, the form the element takes has a huge effect on its toxicity.

Just for fun, look up sodium metal. It's nasty stuff, yet I bet that even after reading about its dangers, you will still eat salt...

And so what if some symptoms of autism and some symptoms of mercury poisoning are identical? That means nothing.

You mentioned taking a Philosophy of Science course. Didn't that course cover issues central to science, such as critical thought???

47 posted on 01/09/2008 4:34:07 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: savagesusie
The Amish do have autism in their population, but since there is a smaller pool of people, their numbers are small. Also, the Amish may or may not care if someone has mild autism. Does it really matter if you can communicate well with others if your life is about farming and being mostly isolated anyway?

The Amish have other health issues that don't get a whole lot of attention - problems arising from inbreeding. Plus, look at their lifestyle - no TV, no video games, no processed foods, no electricity, and lots of outside exercise.

It's impossible to point out one difference between the Amish and the English (that's us) and say that is the cause of various problems. It's much more complicated than that

48 posted on 01/09/2008 4:46:26 AM PST by SoftballMominVA (Never wrestle with a pig; he wants to get dirty anyway.)
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To: shrinkermd

Maybe it’s micro-waved “chemical rich” baby bottles...


49 posted on 01/09/2008 4:47:49 AM PST by GOPJ (Drug dealers are NOT "unlicensed pharmacists" - - Illegals are NOT "undocumented workers". Bailey)
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To: Straight Vermonter
.....that many doctors are reluctant to tell parents that their children are mildy retarded.

I've actually seen that myself. I worked with a student with a documented IQ of 64 (two separate tests over a 3 year period came up with a near identical score), but the mother refused to have the child have MR services. Instead, she 'doctor-shopped' until she found one that diagnosed the child with autism.

The kid is now in high school and doing poorly because the mother insists that he be in all regular classes, such as algebra, world history, etc and then punishes him when he doesn't do well on tests and/or the class.

50 posted on 01/09/2008 4:49:58 AM PST by SoftballMominVA (Never wrestle with a pig; he wants to get dirty anyway.)
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To: shrinkermd
Well, duh. Correlation does not imply causation, any more than a decline in the number of pirates caused global warming.


51 posted on 01/09/2008 4:52:25 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("At last my arm is complete!" Sweeney Todd)
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To: muawiyah
"what it is that white folks eat that gives them 10 times the autism rate of black folks."

It may be that the white folks have more access to medical care than the black folks.

Carolyn

52 posted on 01/09/2008 5:07:22 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: SoftballMominVA

This is also true for other syndromes—attention deficit disorder, etc.

In the two-volume, COMPREHENSIVE TEXTBOOK OF PSYCHIATRY, n Ninivaggi, of the Yale Child Study Center has a great Chapter outlining intelligence and differentiating borderline intelligence from ADHD. I note that many inner city minority children are being increasingly diagnosed for ADHD. At least some of these have IQs less than 85, and often in the 70s.

I wish more would read this, since it is very helpful in avoiding over utilizing of medications.


53 posted on 01/09/2008 7:26:47 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: Hildy

That is because any abnormal behavior, including just dumb children, is now a “learning disability”. That means that all genuine learning disabilities must be classified up to autism!


54 posted on 01/09/2008 9:18:58 AM PST by NucSubs (Rudy Giuliani 2008! Our liberal democrat is better than theirs!)
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To: NucSubs

I think you’re right.


55 posted on 01/09/2008 10:12:09 AM PST by Hildy (You know you're in love when you can't fall asleep cause reality is finally better than your dreams)
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To: TomB
Once again I ask, since thimerosal was in vaccines for decades, why did autism rates only increase in the 80s?

Because everything was better in the 80s.
56 posted on 01/09/2008 11:34:45 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; Gondring

Study: Rare gene change linked to autism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951218/posts

Ping to a new thread on the subject:

“The number of children diagnosed with autism has risen in recent years to as many as one in 150 American children, but experts are unsure whether its prevalence really is increasing or the trend is due to a broader definition of autism.”


57 posted on 01/10/2008 6:57:14 AM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35
Ping to a new thread on the subject:

Thanks for the ping!

“The number of children diagnosed with autism has risen in recent years to as many as one in 150 American children, but experts are unsure whether its prevalence really is increasing or the trend is due to a broader definition of autism.”

Let's focus on the "real" autism...the cases that are not in the penumbra of doubt.

A friend who works in a primary school setting (occupational therapist) and is about to retire notes a dramatic increase in the severity of cases over her career span, which could indicate many things--admittedly, not necessarily an increase in the "average severity" of autism cases. But it could also indicate that there are more cases, so the ones she sees per capita are more serious...or it could mean that more serious cases were previously not in the schools... or...

Regardless, I have encountered the same in geographically diverse areas. I have another friend in California I will have to ask about this, as she has a rather senior position in a city district while still being very good about spotting the BS.

58 posted on 01/10/2008 2:38:13 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: TomB; savagesusie
Also, the last place you should look for a good study is the Lancet, the home of Wakefield's discredited MMR/vaccine study and even more discredited Iraq Body Count study.

At least they published the letter when 10 of Wakefield's 12 co-authors retracted the paper's conclusions. And the Lancet itself described the study as "fatally flawed" (though perhaps they should have used "fraud," instead).

And it will be interesting to see if Wakefield is found guilty of the charges against him. I don't wish to suppress novel ideas (see, for example, Peter Duesberg), but neither do I like poor research.

59 posted on 01/10/2008 2:48:13 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: muawiyah; CDHart
...but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is that white folks eat that gives them 10 times the autism rate of black folks.

Considering many studies show much higher rates in blacks, it might just be a methodology problem.

60 posted on 01/10/2008 2:53:17 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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