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NYPD's historic feat should quiet critics
NY Daily News ^ | January 06 2008 | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 01/06/2008 12:21:32 PM PST by knighthawk

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1 posted on 01/06/2008 12:21:33 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...

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2 posted on 01/06/2008 12:22:42 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

And gun control had nothing to do with it.


3 posted on 01/06/2008 12:23:58 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: knighthawk

Now, repeal the Sullivan Acts, and watch the crime rate fall further.


4 posted on 01/06/2008 12:24:26 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: knighthawk

Will “Law and Order” move to another city?


5 posted on 01/06/2008 12:25:39 PM PST by stevem
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To: knighthawk

Just think how much more the murder rate would have gone down if citizens had the right to carry.


6 posted on 01/06/2008 12:26:42 PM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: Larry Lucido

Great minds.


7 posted on 01/06/2008 12:27:25 PM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: knighthawk
"And the Kelly-era NYPD has continued the nuts and bolts of effective policing - stop-and-frisks toget guns off the street and enforcement of quality-of-life laws - despite carping from the usual critics."

Stop and frisk sounds like an illegal search. But hey I guess if it gets those evil guns off the street. NYC is now a police state and crowing about it.

8 posted on 01/06/2008 12:31:02 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: Larry Lucido
Notable New York City License Holders (Wikepedia)

Outside of New York City, the practices for the issuance of concealed carry licenses vary from county to county within New York State. In New York City, the licensing authority is the police department, which rarely issues carry licenses to anyone except retired police officers. In addition, New Yorkers who have political influence, wealth, or celebrity appear to be issued licenses more liberally. [1] The New York Post, the New York Sun, and other newspapers have obtained the list of licensees through Freedom of Information Law requests and have published several articles showing that the wealthy, famous, and politically connected have been issued carry licenses by the city police department.

Current and past New York City (pistol)license holders include:

* Senator Charles Schumer
* Don Imus
* Harvey Keitel
* Joseph Bruno
* Ronald Lauder
* Edgar Bronfman, Sr.
* Howard Stern
* Donald Trump
* William F. Buckley Jr.
* Joan Rivers
* Arthur Hays Sulzberger
* Robert DeNiro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Act

9 posted on 01/06/2008 12:35:39 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: knighthawk

—having seen on the internet within the last year or so that any type controlled substance is available at any time in NYC by merely making a cell phone call to numbers easily available to practically anyone, I am of the firm belief that the drug trade is in a near monopoly situation, so that there is no need for disputes over distribution-—contributing mightily to the low murder rate—


12 posted on 01/06/2008 12:42:50 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: knighthawk
It also helps to put criminals in jail.

New York incarceration, prisoners:


13 posted on 01/06/2008 12:45:55 PM PST by Dan Evans
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but but but, I thought it was Rudy that was causing crime to decrease in NYC... He’s not mayor anymore, this must all be lies!

/s


14 posted on 01/06/2008 12:45:57 PM PST by Mr Inviso
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To: driftdiver
Stop and frisk sounds like an illegal search.

The cops do this to turnstile-jumpers, weed smokers, and other low-level crime perps as a matter of course. They turn up lots of folks who've jumped bail, broken parole, etc., and put them behind bars.

The greatest beneficiaries of this policy are folks of color, who suffered the highest murder rates under the Dinkins/Democrat regimes.

15 posted on 01/06/2008 12:49:15 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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I can’t believe the cops getting credit for Bloomy’s crime fighting .
16 posted on 01/06/2008 12:52:54 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: rellimpank
I am of the firm belief that the drug trade is in a near monopoly situation, so that there is no need for disputes over distribution-—contributing mightily to the low murder rate—

High rates of AIDS among needle-using drug addicts and among inmates in prisons and jails has also removed a large number of criminals from the active criminal population.

17 posted on 01/06/2008 1:23:37 PM PST by Lessismore
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To: knighthawk

After the toll and subway fare increases this week, I expect even more murderers to be priced out of the 5 boroughs.


18 posted on 01/06/2008 1:38:30 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: driftdiver
stop-and-frisk" is what is referred to as a "Terry Stop" from the supreme court case (around 1976, IIRC) that said it didn't violate the 4th amendment. 2 major qualifications:

1. Cop needs "reasonable suspicion" -- not full "probable casue" but not just at random -- say, people loitering around a liquor store without going in.

2. can only search to the extent of self-protection -- "frisk" for weapons, not "search" for drugs, stolen cash, etc.

19 posted on 01/06/2008 2:07:58 PM PST by BohDaThone
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To: Mr Inviso

Yes, I would credit Giuliani for the good police work. It was set up under his watch. Thankfully Bloomberg hasn’t reversed course, as I would have expected, but allows the police to continue with their earlier policies.

Bratten gets credit, too. But he’s now in L.A., and the policing is lousy, because a good police chief can’t do anything under a lousy mayor.


20 posted on 01/06/2008 2:09:57 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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