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Hillary's Debate Moment (YouTube Link included)
ABC News ^ | 6 Jan 08 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 01/06/2008 3:29:58 AM PST by SkyPilot

It won't come across on the transcript, but Sen. Hillary Clinton got angry during the debate tonight.

She was bickering with Sen. Barack Obama about their differences on health insurance, and whether Obama's plan leaves millions of Americans uninsured.

And then she … well … she got angry.

Frankly, I don't even really understand what she was saying. What I was getting was how angry she is. Not about an issue, so much, as about the fact that Obama is beating her.

The clip, I predict, will be played again and again and again.

Pundits will say that her tone made male voters recoil. And led some female voters to sneer.

Clinton people are spinning this as her projecting strength. I do not think that will be the widely-head view.

HERE's THE VIDEO LINK, already posted by Clinton enemies and the debate isn't even over yet.

Tell me what you think.

-- jpt

UPDATE: She just had another weird moment, too, where she seemed to blame Natalie Sarkisyan's death on John Edwards' inability to get the Patients Bill of Rights passed in the House.

I should add that this angry Hillary Clinton is NOT one I've ever seen at the Senate, on the stump, or in interviews. But I fear her performance tonight, in contrast to Obama's coolness and Edwards' Southern drawl, feeds into stereotypes about her. She tried to address this by dismissing "likeability" as a factor -- that Americans in 2000 would have preferred to have a beer with George W. Bush than Al Gore, and look how that worked out. But still.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debate; heated; hillary; nh2008
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To: SkyPilot
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I have a variety of "HillArt" at www.tinypic.com (search=Hillary) that I'd love to see people use.

I get a lot of milage out of MS-Paint! : )

61 posted on 01/06/2008 4:35:55 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD!!
62 posted on 01/06/2008 4:36:19 AM PST by Doofer
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This is good too:

McInsane / Obama in 08!

63 posted on 01/06/2008 4:37:23 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: cajungirl

I was expecting the “moment” to be a lot more than it was. I watched the clip waiting for something to happen and it never did. It was just Hillary being Hillary, as far as I saw it. Didn’t surprise me.

The DBM seem ready to dump her in favor of O, but need justification to do so. It would seem fickle for the DBM to back O just because they thought he was going to win (although we know that is the real reason). They need a compelling “fig leaf” reason why they no longer support Hillary which maintains their credibility (what little of it they have left).


64 posted on 01/06/2008 4:38:09 AM PST by randita
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To: SkyPilot

Here is what I’m looking at:

Hillary is done.

The DNC will NEVER let a black or half black man win the nomination.

The DNC will direct the MSM to begin supporting another WHITE candidate, either Edwards or a late add (Bloomberg).

Watch as Obama is surgically taken down.


65 posted on 01/06/2008 4:39:38 AM PST by Eddie01 (Freepers don't let Freepers get spun)
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To: SkyPilot
Interesting footage.

I am wondering that before the debate, internal polls were showing Hillary losing ground in New Hampshire.

That would explain a lot.

If you're confident of victory there would be no reason to be angry or defensive in a debate.

IMHO

66 posted on 01/06/2008 4:40:18 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Eddie01
The DNC will NEVER let a black or half black man win the nomination.

I agree that the party of Segregation is not going to take this well.

However, Obama's "disciples" are not going to go quietly.

M-I-C-K-E-Y......M-O-U-S-E

67 posted on 01/06/2008 4:41:44 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot; Judith Anne

I second the motion. Heck of a quote!


68 posted on 01/06/2008 4:42:31 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: Northern Yankee
Here is a picture from last night of some of Obama's worhippers trying to touch the hem of his garment.

He is their "messiah."


69 posted on 01/06/2008 4:44:16 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Eddie01

how do you know that?


70 posted on 01/06/2008 4:45:06 AM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: randita

SOS CLinton performance in debate, someone said something negative about her wearing the color green!

Clintons have still NOT released their Obama dirt bombs yet on
him & what effect if ANY they will have???

Mason Dixon

PS Notice when Dems came onstage with Reps cameras jumped to Obama, the media is turned to his court!


71 posted on 01/06/2008 4:46:19 AM PST by mason-dixon
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To: SkyPilot
Obama draws big crowds and people are enthusiastic about him. No one is that passionate for Hillary.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

72 posted on 01/06/2008 4:46:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Caipirabob
I thought Hillary's body language was a clear conveyance of her frustration. She continually used her hands in a "hammering motion" as if she was attempting to pound her words into people's heads like serated metal spikes.

There is a term for her gestures and body language.

There are entire textbooks and college courses on the subject.

A person who continually makes the "hammering or pounding motion" is classified as aggressive, but full of doubt - who wants to dominate others to cover up their own short comings and fears.

73 posted on 01/06/2008 4:46:49 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Eddie01

actually,

it’s just the opposite.

the boomer generation and successive generations in power

in u.s. corporations promote

diversity.

and obama is just that.


74 posted on 01/06/2008 4:47:09 AM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: SkyPilot

I see it as a good response.


75 posted on 01/06/2008 4:47:32 AM PST by Vision (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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To: LetsRok

“Typical liberal lies about their “accomplishments”. Hillary is claiming success for 35 years of accomplishments that never happened. Just because she was for or against an issue does not mean that it was passed. Hillary’s ONLY legislative accomplishment in her 35 years is maybe the naming of a post office or two in upstate NY. Anything else she spouts off are lies.”

After her “35 years” comment, I might have replied, “mrs. clinton, you’ve been doing this for 35 years and nothing has changed. Step out of the way and let some new blood in.”
Or something like that. :-)


76 posted on 01/06/2008 4:47:48 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Eddie01
Eddie,

Or when McCain falls by the wayside as Tram Fred picks up steam, do they snag him and his unquenchable desire and Lieberman on the same ticket....

I have been saying all along the dream Democratic Ticket is McCain/Lieberman....

They get their defense mojo with no guilt, it is like some uninvented yet "Zero" calorie Ice Cream.

77 posted on 01/06/2008 4:48:02 AM PST by taildragger
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To: djf
She keeps repeating Ad Nauseum that she was in the White House for eight years. Like somebody else said, though, “So was the pastry chef!!”

LOL!

78 posted on 01/06/2008 4:48:57 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Hillary Matters sure had a long list of whoppers. Did anyone else notice her Vietnam soliloquy about leaving Iraq? This woman is scary weird.
79 posted on 01/06/2008 4:49:27 AM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: Caipirabob
Excellent.

By the way, be careful when searching for photos on Yahoo or Google titled "Ex-Wife."

Sheesh! I found out just now.

80 posted on 01/06/2008 4:50:59 AM PST by SkyPilot
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