Posted on 01/06/2008 3:29:58 AM PST by SkyPilot
It won't come across on the transcript, but Sen. Hillary Clinton got angry during the debate tonight.
She was bickering with Sen. Barack Obama about their differences on health insurance, and whether Obama's plan leaves millions of Americans uninsured.
And then she … well … she got angry.
Frankly, I don't even really understand what she was saying. What I was getting was how angry she is. Not about an issue, so much, as about the fact that Obama is beating her.
The clip, I predict, will be played again and again and again.
Pundits will say that her tone made male voters recoil. And led some female voters to sneer.
Clinton people are spinning this as her projecting strength. I do not think that will be the widely-head view.
HERE's THE VIDEO LINK, already posted by Clinton enemies and the debate isn't even over yet.
Tell me what you think.
-- jpt
UPDATE: She just had another weird moment, too, where she seemed to blame Natalie Sarkisyan's death on John Edwards' inability to get the Patients Bill of Rights passed in the House.
I should add that this angry Hillary Clinton is NOT one I've ever seen at the Senate, on the stump, or in interviews. But I fear her performance tonight, in contrast to Obama's coolness and Edwards' Southern drawl, feeds into stereotypes about her. She tried to address this by dismissing "likeability" as a factor -- that Americans in 2000 would have preferred to have a beer with George W. Bush than Al Gore, and look how that worked out. But still.
On very interesting note, is that YouTube has not only disabled comments for this video, and the video of a New Hampshire focus group commenting on her performance. YouTube has acutally taken down all the comments.
This usually never happens unless there is a legal issue.
This is war at the front lines of Liberals.
Compared to what Bill has seen, this is probably pretty mild.
After her performance last nite, some blog respondents already have coined a new name for her ... “Chillary”.
I watched the debate and saw that ‘moment’ and think much is being made of it undeservedly. She came across and very focused, mad but not shrewish.
I think Hill is in a box. One little thing and it is magnified to an extreme.
I don’t like or want her but I think this is being overplayed and may end up not hurting her. It was if everyone was poised, just waiting for her to show anything of a feeling side and ready to pounce.
In short, I had a moment of sympathy for her. ANd if I, a diehard Hillary hater, had a moment of sympathy, she may garner some sympathy.
It was very strange how the author of this ABC piece added that after his story hit the wires.
The scenario was almost as if he received a phone call, or threat of some kind.
Here he is:
Jake Tapper is ABC News' Senior National Correspondent based in the network's Washington bureau. He writes about politics and popular culture and covers a range of national stories.
Stick a fork in her...
I thought she would be a shoo-in after NY, FL, and CA.
BUTTTTTTTTTTTT.......
Turns out the dims have done away with “winner take all”, so even if she could come up with a way to get to the convention with the most delegates, she’ll never have a lock.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
I think Edwards knew this was a “moment”.
You used to be able to be able to Google those very same comments which were made by a Democrat who worked very closely with her on the Health Care Task Force.
Agreed. While she comes across as angry jerk, that is what she always comes across as (when she is not being phony with this "softer side" garbage).
What we are witnessing is the MSM running away from her, and siding with Obama.
They finally realized she is not electable nationally.
The MSM did the same thing four years ago with the "Dean Scream."
Yes - Dean is a weirdo - but he had been screaming and doing that bit for months during the campaign.
The MSM loved it - until they woke up and realized he would never be electable in the general election.
So, after the scream, they ran it, and re-ran it so he would be destroyed and the candidates the elites picked, Kerry the "war hero" - would emerge.
Was "The Scream" that terrible? Not really - it was typical Dean, and the MSM knew it. But they realized that he couldn't win. So they torpedoed him.
There is a FR thread from yesterday that documents how the MSM has acted as "king maker" for Democrat Presidential candidates ever since McGovern was the nominee and got shelled by Nixon. The MSM decided to take the process over.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
I didn’t feel any sympathy for her. The main thing is she reminds me of people I’ve known who try to dominate by being verbally aggressive. She spoke for a solid minute, haranguing all the men, who looked to me as though they were embarrassed for her.
Besides, I don’t remember her taking on the drug companies, or the oil companies, or any of those “changes” she insisted she’d made.
She’s America’s ex-wife. A shrew. A bully. Nothing less. Boring woman, and ugly in her attitude as well.
I can’t stand her but I agree with your assessment.
Watch her eyes, she’s scary.
Typical liberal lies about their “accomplishments”. Hillary is claiming success for 35 years of accomplishments that never happened. Just because she was for or against an issue does not mean that it was passed. Hillary’s ONLY legislative accomplishment in her 35 years is maybe the naming of a post office or two in upstate NY. Anything else she spouts off are lies.
She still has alot of hard core supporters. But as time goes on, and she faces the prospect of having to fight an uphill battle, she’s gonna waste all her political capital and drive many of those away.
She seems to be inherently somewhat unstable if she doesn’t get her way. Not a good trait for the president.
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