Posted on 01/06/2008 3:29:58 AM PST by SkyPilot
It won't come across on the transcript, but Sen. Hillary Clinton got angry during the debate tonight.
She was bickering with Sen. Barack Obama about their differences on health insurance, and whether Obama's plan leaves millions of Americans uninsured.
And then she … well … she got angry.
Frankly, I don't even really understand what she was saying. What I was getting was how angry she is. Not about an issue, so much, as about the fact that Obama is beating her.
The clip, I predict, will be played again and again and again.
Pundits will say that her tone made male voters recoil. And led some female voters to sneer.
Clinton people are spinning this as her projecting strength. I do not think that will be the widely-head view.
HERE's THE VIDEO LINK, already posted by Clinton enemies and the debate isn't even over yet.
Tell me what you think.
-- jpt
UPDATE: She just had another weird moment, too, where she seemed to blame Natalie Sarkisyan's death on John Edwards' inability to get the Patients Bill of Rights passed in the House.
I should add that this angry Hillary Clinton is NOT one I've ever seen at the Senate, on the stump, or in interviews. But I fear her performance tonight, in contrast to Obama's coolness and Edwards' Southern drawl, feeds into stereotypes about her. She tried to address this by dismissing "likeability" as a factor -- that Americans in 2000 would have preferred to have a beer with George W. Bush than Al Gore, and look how that worked out. But still.
And that is where the liberal fantasy stops, in this case. Women and men are not alike; they are different. What works for a man does not always work for a woman, and what works for a woman does not always work for a man. No matter how much the liberal feminists from the '60's attempt to defy biology, this is true. And women who try to act like men come across poorly.
Since most people in this country are heterosexual, and respect, if not follow, the concept of monogamy, people from either sex who try to act like the other sex will look strange or unpleasant. That might appeal to a small base, but not the majority.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Welcome to FR!
Yeah, lots of fights going on within the change gang. The most depressing political discourse I’ve ever seen. To snap out of it they need to mention making change to the NYC deli operaters - see how far that will get them. Didn’t they watch the South Park episode to see how ridiculous they all look and sound?
On second thought, if they get more specific in their discourse, it’s just socialism with an occasional strand of inconvenient impurity. Ugly stuff. I don’t see how a person with any common sense at all can tolerate the verbal “change” assaults. Common sense -does it exit in the Democrat party?
I agree. Say she splits NY and CA with Obama, she still has to worry about the whole southern tier. Just being a democrat ain’t gonna help her one twit with the black vote. And that means Chicago and Detroit as well.
If I was an oddsmaker, I wouldn’t call her a longshot yet, but it’s not looking good. (for her, I mean. It’s fine with me!!)
More like High School senior .......
You picked that up too?
She is just desperate now - lying uncontrollably.
The "35 years experience" lie is just like this one:
Hillary says she risked life on White House trips
She is acting like a high school drop out who is cutting and pasting together a phony resume on the Internet.
As far as this "risking her life" story - it is typical Hillary, and typical Clinton.
I was an airlift pilot during the mid-90's with the USAF, and it was my squadron that flew her to Bosnia on a C-17.
She was never, ever in danger. She traveled to Tuzla with Chelsea and Sheryl Crow for a USO show.
She traveled in luxury, with incredible security, where ever she went.
Moreover, the rest of her trips were self-titled "chick trips" (and even the NY Slimes used that term).
i do not agree.
passionate men often turn off people.
What hit me was how she brought back images of Kruschev pounding his shoe at the UN. "We will bury you!" and all that.
I will say, though. She did present herself far better than she has on previous occasions. I didn't really pick up on the screech factor that much in this appearance, and that's to her advantage.
The most exciting thing is that Obama has raised the level of the debate just by presenting a realistic threat to Hillary's nomination.
Note to Hillary: Try placing that deckchair by the rail - that's better!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
I know.
Guess what?
YouTube not only disabled comments on that video too - they "took down" and removed hundreds of posted comments from last night!
She keeps repeating Ad Nauseum that she was in the White House for eight years.
Like somebody else said, though, “So was the pastry chef!!”
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Sounds like a Paul Shanklin song if you ask me:
That's the sound of the Dem's taking about change, gang.....
:-)
that said, i still think she is in deep trouble - there just isn't enough lipstick in the world to cover over Hillary's negatives...
Hillary thinking: "I see dead people. They just don't know it yet..."
Oh the cleverness of me.
Like some sort of cartoon character.
I love this:
"Making change, making change, wait a minute, wait a minute! I am going to respond to this, because obviously.... MAKING CHANGE is not about what you believe."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07u6uffKvpA
Look how the other candidates don't even want to be next to her.
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