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Kucinich files complaint on ABC debate (FCC Equal Access claim re: Kucinich, Gravel & Duncan Hunter)
AP via Yahoo ^ | 1/4/2008 | DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

Posted on 01/04/2008 6:02:56 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance

NEW YORK - Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich filed a complaint with the FCC on Friday after ABC News excluded him, fellow Democrat Mike Gravel and Republican Duncan Hunter from its prime-time debates on Saturday.

Kucinich argued that ABC is violating equal-time provisions by keeping him out of the debate and noted that ABC's parent Walt Disney Co. had contributed to campaigns involving the four Democrats who were invited.

"ABC should not be the first primary," the Ohio congressman said in papers filed at the Federal Communications Commission.

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Fox News Channel is sponsoring a debate in its mobile studio Sunday that excludes Paul and Hunter. Huckabee, Giuliani, Romney, Thompson and McCain have been invited.

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(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008debates; abcmews; biasmeanslayoffs; elections; enemedia; fcc; gopdebates; gravel; howtostealanelection; hunter; kucinich; liberalmedia; mediabias; paul; riggedelection; trysellingthetruth
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I haven’t paid that much attention to how these things were arranged in the past, but should the Democrat Party and the Republican Party have some say in which candidates should participate in the debates? I.e., the DNC and the RNC?

The Republicans have been particularly dismal in the way they have let the TV people run all over them, without any kind of consequences.

I remember a day, way way in the past, when the League of Women’s Voters ran these debates, and did so as honest and neutral umpires. Of course now that would be ludicrous.

The problem is, there should be some sort of grownups in charge, to decide when the debates should be narrowed down. And there is no one in sight to do it.

I suppose you can say that the media have a right to do whatever they like, and that the two parties have a right not to agree with decisions they consider unfair. And the candidates have a right not to work with a network they consider unfair—as, indeed, the Democrats agreed to do with Fox. But the whole process is breaking down, and you can’t trust any of the parties to be fair or decent, because those concepts seem to have gone out the window.


61 posted on 01/04/2008 7:10:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: submarinerswife

BA-ZING! Well, I guess you roasted my ass. Not.


62 posted on 01/04/2008 7:12:15 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: bert

Hunter is not a known loser. Hunter has not been “culled”. He is just not invited to those insipid debates. The debates are just Moderates and Liberals fighting over which is the most conservative. I hope the first question is; “Why were none of you particularly interested in securing our borders until you began your bid for the WH?”


63 posted on 01/04/2008 7:13:02 PM PST by WildcatClan (Vote Hunter for President)
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To: RichInOC
I still question whether Dennis is even a native-born earthling, let alone a native-born American


64 posted on 01/04/2008 7:15:34 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (sing after me......de-por-ta-tion cha-cha-cha)
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To: Always Right

You can’t bring cream pies and seltzer water and stuff. I already asked.


65 posted on 01/04/2008 7:16:59 PM PST by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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To: The Pack Knight

If you want to play the equal time game, how about all the Libertarians, Socialist, Communist, Natural Law Party, Constitution Party, Independent Candidates, etc... etc... etc...

Granted, this is during the primaries, so it’s a tad bit different than this Fall for example, but I can see where having 50 people up on stage would make a debate rather pointless.

I don’t think anyone could come to an agreement on what the cutoff should be because there will always be one or more candidates just under the line who feel slighted...

Don’t know what to say about this really.

As for Walt Disney contributing to campaigns — a little more information on that point might be a good place to start re: the MSM influencing the elections.


66 posted on 01/04/2008 7:22:28 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Fred in '08)
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To: submarinerswife; Calpernia; kingu

“He refused to sign a loyalty agreement in Texas stating that he swears allegiance to the Dem nominee just to be on the ballot in Texas.”


I’d like to see all candidates sign a loyalty agreement to the U.S. Constitution to be on any ballot anywhere.

And have to PLEDGE to the U.S. Flag!

All else is expatriatism—or treachery and probably both.


67 posted on 01/04/2008 7:22:28 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: submarinerswife
"This is the second time this week I agreed with Kucinich. Very scary. He refused to sign a loyalty agreement in Texas stating that he swears allegiance to the Dem nominee just to be on the ballot in Texas"

I am with you on that one! The little guy kind of surprised me.

I know that I am going to take garbage for this one, but I am going to say it anyway -- If I were Kucinich and had been so poor that I actually grew up living with my parents in a car (at one point) I'd probably be a Liberal Democrat, too. But I didn't. The fact that Kucinich has some compassion for those who are still at the level of where he came from, is not a sin. It is, unfortunately, a completely unworkable political philosophy for running a country.

You don't have to agree with someone's positions to understand where they might be coming from -- and I don't mean Alpha Centauri!

68 posted on 01/04/2008 7:23:16 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Can Fox (or any other network for that matter) demand that a candidate shows up for an interview to insist on equal time? How many times have we heard, "Our producer contacted candidate X, and they declined an interview"?

I'd love to see Hillary brought to a studio in handcuffs and FORCED to answer questions based on "equal time" rules.

69 posted on 01/04/2008 7:27:20 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I’d like to see all candidates sign a loyalty agreement to the U.S. Constitution to be on any ballot anywhere.

And have to PLEDGE to the U.S. Flag!


Hello Obama, are you listening?


70 posted on 01/04/2008 7:29:44 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: SERKIT; doug from upland; PGalt; krucader_bravepages_com; Alamo-Girl; Richard Poe; Nick Danger; ...

“I’d love to see Hillary brought to a studio in handcuffs and FORCED to answer questions based on “equal time” rules.”



Make it “HARD TIME” and I’d agree...


71 posted on 01/04/2008 7:31:07 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Bokababe

Kucinich is the type of guy i can disagree with on virtualy every issue, but at the end of the day, I can sit down and have a beer with the guy. He’s true to his convictions IMO, and isn’t a lying, conniving disingenuous SOB like most politicians. Maybe I havn’t followed him closely enough, but that’s my genuine take (he and Jerry Brown).


72 posted on 01/04/2008 7:31:08 PM PST by Homer1
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To: Duchess47
I surely wish the candidates included would say thanks, but no thanks until everyone is invited.

That makes more sense than anything else I have read here!!

73 posted on 01/04/2008 7:35:41 PM PST by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: Homer1
"Kucinich is the type of guy i can disagree with on virtualy every issue, but at the end of the day, I can sit down and have a beer with the guy.He’s true to his convictions IMO, and isn’t a lying, conniving disingenuous SOB like most politicians."

I agree, I think that he is for real.

74 posted on 01/04/2008 7:49:58 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree with you.


75 posted on 01/04/2008 7:50:58 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Everything I need to know about Ron Paul supporters I read on two bumper stickers on the same car.

First bumper sticker...”PSYCHIATRY KILLS!!!”

Second bumper sticker, next to the first....”Ron Paul for President.”


76 posted on 01/04/2008 7:51:02 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to cry.")
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The garden gnome speaks!

I thought he was the Travelocity Gnome. It's so cute when he sticks something in an electric outlet and flys across the room.

77 posted on 01/04/2008 7:51:40 PM PST by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

ABC is on pretty safe ground, as they can argue that the debate is a “bona-fide news event,” separate from their coverage.

Fox News is not a broadcast network, so they don’t have to follow equal time rules, as far as I know.


78 posted on 01/04/2008 7:53:17 PM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

In a way, I hope he succedes...but for my reasons not his. Marvin the Martian, and Gravel, only dilute the Dems push by highlighting theit patys weaknesses, while Hunter, will only bring foeward the best of the consertvate hopes and ideals.


79 posted on 01/04/2008 7:53:20 PM PST by DGHoodini (The Dems no longer have the humanity to grasp that there are things worth dying for.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

The irony in all of this is that now all of the excluded Presidential candidates are getting more attention from being excluded from the debates! They truly wouldn’t be getting this much present attention if they were included in the debates!


80 posted on 01/04/2008 7:55:27 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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