Posted on 01/04/2008 1:25:56 PM PST by newgeezer
The pizza delivery driver who fatally shot a robber last week could have faced discipline over the incident had he not resigned, a Domino's spokesman said Wednesday.
Employees sign an agreement in which they agree not to carry a weapon, Domino's corporate spokesman Tim McIntyre said, a policy designed to protect both the public and employees.
"We're driving down streets. We're going to people's homes. We're also a workplace," he said.
McIntyre added that police had told the company, "There are too many cases in which a person's own weapon has been used against them."
Domino's trains employees to minimize their risk, both before and during a robbery, McIntyre said. Drivers are told to carry a cell phone and avoid wearing jewelry or carrying valuables or more than a small amount of cash typically $20.
If robbers approach, drivers are told to "turn over the pizza and empty your pockets."
"The best way to save yourself from harm is to get the situation over as quickly and efficiently as possible," he said.
Domino's also offers security training to other pizza companies to minimize everyone's risk by limiting the potential payoff to would-be delivery robbers.
The driver shot Brian Smith, 19, of the 600 block of Ferguson Avenue in Ferguson, on Dec. 27. His alleged accomplice, Rodney Reese, 18, fled with the pizzas, soda and the driver's wallet, police said, and was later charged with first-degree robbery, two counts of armed criminal action and second-degree murder because he was allegedly involved in a fatal crime.
McIntyre said any punishment would not have been "because he (the driver) defended himself. It would be because he violated a policy that he agreed to follow."
"We completely expect to be criticized," he added.
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I read where it happened to a police officer a few years ago. Ironic.
I banned Dominos from my purchasing list years before that because of bad product.
By the way, we shouldn’t disappoint them. They expect criticism - why not give them some?
Domino’s Pizza LLC
30 Frank Lloyd Wright Drive
Ann Arbor, MI 48106
(734) 930-3030
I called and informed the customer service rep that I would be certain to avoid Dominos Pizza and that I would advise my family, friends, and business associates to also avoid Dominos. My reason was that since their spokesman Tim McIntyre had just announced to the world that it was OK to rob a Dominos Pizza driver thus turning them into crime magnets, I did not want a crime magnet on my property or at my business. As it is a known fact that criminals will stalk pizza drivers for money, I do not want to have a crime take place on or around me for personal safety reasons.
I don’t expect a call back. If you do call, make sure the CSR reads back what they have entered into their system and get a case/incident number. That will ensure that they didn’t just ignore you.
In a good area a pizza man can make $15.00 an hour. It's a between jobs or supplemental income job.
This has always been Domino’s policy, of course I violated it wholesale when I was a driver for them.
Every few years a driver here gets shot and killed, by some punk thug wanna be.
Dominos can say all they want about turning over your money being the safest action... but those execs and liability attorneys and insurance policy writers aren’t the ones on the street dealing with the meth or crack addict coming after them.
This has always been Dominos policy... a policy that any wise driver will ignore.
Dominos CORP makes its decisions based on insurance premiums and liability lawsuit avoidance, not on the safety of its employees. The people making the calls are not the ones dealing with little miscreants with no respect for life coming after them.
The source is PFTA - “Picked from the Air”
He did not get fired for defending himself, as a matter of fact he didn’t even get fired, he quit.
He signed an agreement when he took the job, I believe he knew full well that he would be carrying a gun and I don’t blame him for that in that kind of job. When he had to use it he knew he broke the agreement and quit the job.
Domino’s policy is stupid but I bet most pizza places and food deliverers have the same policy. I worked for the same employer for more than 30 years and had I ever been caught with a gun on their premises I would have been fired.
Make *sure* you call Dominos and explain why.
I suggest that you do not couch it in terms of “Second Amendment Rights” which these people won’t understand or care about. Explain it to them in terms of your liability (crime occurring on your property because of them) and safety (who willingly invites a crime target in??) as well as the bottom line (cannot afford to have crime targets seen near your home or business). THAT they will understand.
I guess I won’t order from them any more. I want my pizza delivered by a guy in a pickup truck with a gun rack in the rear window.
I’ve refused to buy Domino’s Pizzas for several years for just this reason...
“with a gun rack in the rear window.”
With a GUN in it...
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That's all very true. I'm not sure why you thought it needed to be said, though. Was it to suggest I'm/we're being too harsh with Domino's?
Legally can they enforce this. They don’t own the cars. Do the drivers buy the pizzas from Domino’s or are they on the clock? Yeah, they can require you not bring a gun into their store but I’m not sure about your car.
Officer Greg Yarbrough. http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/Pennsylvania-Officer-Shot-With-Own-Gun/1$36426
Cpl. Joseph Pokorny Shot with own gun in an extended stay parking lot after struggle during a traffic stop.
Michael Coscia
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/duty-gear/articles/91161/
And these are just police who have been shot by their own weapons.
Its not just cops who have this happen.
I don’t argue that you disarm a citizen, but to claim that people don’t wind up getting shot by their own guns is laughable.
This has been Domino’s policy for a long time, I had a friend back in college that worked for them and carried a gun regardless of the policy. Like he said, Well if I get fired for defending myself, I’ll just trot down the street a block to the next minimum wage pizza joint...
I doubt any of the other pizza delivery places allow their employees to be armed either. The general rule of thumb in the often robbed industries (convenience stores, fastfood, taxis, home delivery) is unarmed and don’t fight back. The companies are afraid of getting sued but customers caught in the cross fire, they figure as long as all the bullets come from bad guys they’re safe from litigation.
Businesses should never interfere with the individual right to self defense.
We need a National Right to Self Defense Act, that will allow people to defend themselves from crime with no civil or criminal retribution.
Free enterprise should never interfere w the right to self defense
police had told the company, There are too many cases in which a persons own weapon has been used against them.
This statement, if true, makes a perfect case for disarming the police as well. This cop is a moron.
No, no, no. The police are “real men” and they can take care of us little sheep. Lock up, hide, and just call them. All will be well.
McIntyre added that police had told the company, There are too many cases in which a persons own weapon has been used against them.
Then the safe thing to do when attacked with a firearm is to simply take it away from the attacker.
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