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To: bill1952

Officer Greg Yarbrough. http://www.officer.com/web/online/Top-News-Stories/Pennsylvania-Officer-Shot-With-Own-Gun/1$36426

Cpl. Joseph Pokorny Shot with own gun in an extended stay parking lot after struggle during a traffic stop.

Michael Coscia
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/duty-gear/articles/91161/

And these are just police who have been shot by their own weapons.

Its not just cops who have this happen.

I don’t argue that you disarm a citizen, but to claim that people don’t wind up getting shot by their own guns is laughable.


35 posted on 01/04/2008 1:57:09 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Police aren’t a fair comparison.
In my experience, citizens are more far likely to shoot than the police, mainly because of tons of regulations.
Plus they get up front and personal, and careless.

I was just stopped by a city cop for a routine check and with my wife and two children in the car, he came out with his hand on his weapon. - and a poor attitude, I might add.

I’m not saying that one cannot be shot with one’s own weapon, but if you understand your weapon and how to use it, then I see no way to do it without being armed and having the drop first.


42 posted on 01/04/2008 2:11:07 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: HamiltonJay
One reason may be that the police do not carry concealed, the handgun is visible and accessible (even from a “retention holster”).

Also, the police use a different concept of operations, they go through many steps and procedures before they even unholster. They’ll negotiate for a peaceful ending and tend to be very reluctant to shoot, a good thing.

An armed citizen, though, can carry concealed and when the threat (punk with a baseball bat for instance) is presented, can draw and fire from concealment to protect his life, after determining that his life is truly at risk (OODA, Observe, Orient, Decide, Act).

Police injured with their own equipment is reported several times a year. Can you dig up an instance where a civilian is disarmed and shot with his own firearm?

44 posted on 01/04/2008 2:13:42 PM PST by DBrow
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To: HamiltonJay
but to claim that people don’t wind up getting shot by their own guns is laughable.

First of all it was a COP that allegedly made the statement. Your examples using cops just further prove that it was the statement about 'too make people getting shot with own gun' , when made by a cop is completely laughable. No on said it never happens. They are disputing that it happens frequently to armed civilians. I will bet that it happens to armed thugs more often than to armed lawabiders. And it certain happens to cops all to often. It is completely laughable because the cop is making a point why THEY should be disarmed, not why citizens should be.
45 posted on 01/04/2008 2:14:42 PM PST by TalonDJ
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