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Muslim Claims of Accomplishment--What Arab Civilization?
ChristiansOfIraq.com | Frontpagemagazine ^ | January 04, 2008 | Peter BetBasoo

Posted on 01/04/2008 5:22:04 AM PST by SJackson

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To: Slapshot68
“Just think where they might be had Islam experienced a reformation similar to that of Christianity.”

Islam is undergoing its reformation NOW! However, that’s not a good thing. A reformation restores the faith to its core values, and islam’s values are evil. The last 400 years of relative peace with these people were an anomaly; they have always been at war with us, and always will be; until either they or we are destroyed.

41 posted on 01/04/2008 6:40:45 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: SJackson

And then there’s FGM, the ritualistic mutilation of young girls, a practice that is reported to be on the rise in Britain.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947760/posts


42 posted on 01/04/2008 6:41:24 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: SJackson
the Arabist/Islamist ideology, which seeks to assimilate all cultures and religions into the Arab/Islamic fold

The left and the Islamists have the same first goal -
Destruction of Western Civilization.

Leftists are too short-sighted, however, to realize that they won't be able to replace our culture with a Secular Socialist one because the Islamists will enslave them first.

43 posted on 01/04/2008 6:47:04 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: brwnsuga
What would life be like without Arabic numerals?

About just the same, because what the Arabs call "Arabic" numerals, were in fact invented in India. Look it up.

44 posted on 01/04/2008 6:47:14 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: kipita

I wouldn’t know about the 12,500-year-old events, but the Hyksos invasion of Egypt was probably by Arab invaders. Pre-Islamic, around the 17th century BC, but it appears they took over a flabby, complacent Egypt without much of a fight.
Eurabia, take note. :(


45 posted on 01/04/2008 6:48:53 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: CarrotAndStick

Thanks for the education... however, I think that using “Arabic” numbers is much simpler than Roman numerals.


46 posted on 01/04/2008 6:52:36 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!!!)
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To: Slapshot68

Such a reformation would not be possible, as Islam today is the same as the Islam of Mohammed: designed to offer three choices: convert, submit (dhimmitude) or die. The only reformation is conversion, which is a death sentence.


47 posted on 01/04/2008 6:53:03 AM PST by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: 2banana

“Among other rules for non Muslims in Muslim Spain; Christians and Jews could not bear arms — Muslims could; Christians and Jews could not ride horses — Muslims could; Christians and Jews had to get permission to build or fix places or worship — Muslims did not; Christians and Jews had to pay certain taxes which Muslims did not; Christians could not proselytize — Muslims could; Christians and Jews had to bow to their Muslim masters; Christians and Jews had to live under the laws set forth in the Koran, not under either their own religious or secular law; Christian’s and Jew’s word in a court of law was not equal to a Muslim’s Word; Christian and Jewish families had to give up a son for conversion and military service in Muslim armies and the most beautiful and largest Christian Churches were converted to Mosques. And the list goes on.”

Just change Muslim to democrat or RINO and you can see why so many of us are concerned about the future.


48 posted on 01/04/2008 6:57:51 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: massgopguy
As I heard one person put it....

“Italians! The fun fun people who brought us organized warfare, organized religion, and organized crime.”

My reply.....”What can I say? We gots talents for organization; you gonna disagree?”

49 posted on 01/04/2008 6:59:40 AM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD (Hunter 08))
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To: CarrotAndStick
1234567890 - Arabic numbers used by West

ارقام هندي ١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩٠ - (Indian numbers - traditional Arabic numbers)

50 posted on 01/04/2008 7:04:04 AM PST by Azeem (Only thing worse than war is peace at all costs.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
The Hyksos invasion of Egypt was accomplished with chariots and bronze weapons. Stone spear points on sticks were a poor defense for the Egyptians, although that was certainly the height of technology for the previous few thousand years. The Hyksos were eventually driven out, but Egyptian art and civilization never was as magnificent as when they were technically ‘stone age’ and building huge mud brick palaces that didn’t last, and stone pyramids and Ziggarats that last to this day, and very magnificent artistic styles that didn’t really recover or innovate again (according to some) until the flourishing of realism during the time of worship of Aton.

So it wasn’t so much that the Egyptians were flabby or complacent; they were forcibly introduced to the “Bronze Age”.

51 posted on 01/04/2008 7:06:09 AM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD (Hunter 08))
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To: docbnj

Jonah Goldberg wrote a great article a few years ago about the Arab culture and how for centuries they have contributed nothing to the sciences, art, music, literature, and this is the reason they have evolved into an “honor culture”. Everything is interpreted in relation to respecting or offending their “honor”...they have nothing else but this. As Goldberg said, their culture continues to shrink in the rear view mirror of the west and this is one of the reasons they are so fanatical.

They are total losers on the world stage and they know it!!


52 posted on 01/04/2008 7:08:30 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: massgopguy
aqueducts...coliseums....shoes...

LOL! shoes....giggle

53 posted on 01/04/2008 7:14:24 AM PST by Vor Lady (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: SJackson

As a citizen of the State of Georgia, I am demanding that islam be banned in my state. I do not care what the rest of the states do, but if Georgia does not ban it, I will move to the first state that does.

On another note, I just flushed an allah down the toilet.


54 posted on 01/04/2008 7:15:49 AM PST by coon2000
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To: allmendream

Thank you, that’s very interesting.


55 posted on 01/04/2008 7:22:08 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: coon2000
I am demanding that islam be banned in my state. I do not care what the rest of the states do, but if Georgia does not ban it, I will move to the first state that does.

Let me know when you find that! I'm always looking for good investments. :)

56 posted on 01/04/2008 7:24:18 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: Azeem
A decimal place system has been traced back to ca. 500 in India. Before that epoch, the Brahmi system was in use; that system did not encompass the concept of the place-value of numbers. Instead, Brahmi numerals included additional symbols for the tens, as well as separate symbols for hundred and thousand.

The Indian place-system numerals spread to neighboring Persia, where they were picked up by the conquering Arabs. In 662, a Nestorian bishop living in what is now called Iraq said:

I will omit all discussion of the science of the Indians ... of their subtle discoveries in astronomy - discoveries that are more ingenious than those of the Greeks and the Babylonians - and of their valuable methods of calculation which surpass description. I wish only to say that this computation is done by means of nine signs. If those who believe that because they speak Greek they have arrived at the limits of science would read the Indian texts they would be convinced even if a little late in the day that there are others who know something of value.

The addition of zero as a tenth positional digit is documented from the 7th century by Brahmagupta, though the earlier Bakhshali Manuscript, written sometime before the 5th century, also included zero.

 

As it was from the Arabs that the Europeans learnt this system, the Europeans called them Arabic numerals; ironically, to this day the Arabs refer to their numerals as Indian numerals. In academic circles they are called the Hindu-Arabic or Indo-Arabic numerals.

 

 

Devanagari
numeral
Arabic/Western
numeral
Sanskrit word for
the ordinal numeral (wordstem)
0 śūnya (शून्य)
1 éka (एक)
2 dvi (द्वि)
3 trí (त्रि)
4 cuatr (चतुर्)
5 pañcha (पञ्च)
6 sahs (षष्)
7 saptá (सप्त)
8 astá (अष्ट)
9 náva (नव)

57 posted on 01/04/2008 7:25:09 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Vor Lady; massgopguy

>> LOL! shoes....giggle

Hey, Etruscans were very proud of their shoes!


58 posted on 01/04/2008 7:26:33 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: brwnsuga

arabic numerals, invented by the Hindus.


59 posted on 01/04/2008 7:36:48 AM PST by chesley (Where's the omelet? -- Orwell)
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To: SJackson

Three wise men=babylonians not arabs.


60 posted on 01/04/2008 7:51:20 AM PST by omega4179 (Conservatives better get motivated!)
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