Muslim Claims of Accomplishment--What Arab Civilization?

ChristiansOfIraq.com | Frontpagemagazine ^ | January 04, 2008 | Peter BetBasoo

[EnigmaticAnomaly]

"Any thoughtful person who knows history and religion would be anti-Islam. Along with Communism, Naziism, and the Black Death, Islam has been responsible for more death and destruction on the face of the planet than just about anything else since the last asteroid impact. Islam was started by predators. It has spread by predation. It has lived off the decaying corpses of the civilizations it has destroyed. It is a vast, ancient sea of corruption, oppression, fanaticism, and ignorance lapping up against the shores of the present, kept alive by the fortuitous accident of living above huge reserves of petroleum."

Beautiful...

[omega4179]

You did not read the article then.

[TXnMA]

"...the problem with Islam is that its essence is evil..."

I agree. (See tagline...)

[Mrs. Don-o]

I have heard it said that “Islamic ‘Civilization’ is not a civilization: it is a graveyard of civilizations.”

[Biggirl]

Also the Hyksos were related to the Biblical Hebrews if my memory is correct.

[Biggirl]

That is why St. Isidore became the patron saint a few years back of the internet. Also the Irish in the north did a lot to preserve what was left behind by the ancient Greeks and Romans. Plus when it comes to any Islamic reforms, think Wahabbi.

[Alkhin]

The rest of “Islam’s accomplishments” were identical: they were the vestiges of the accomplishments of whatever society Islam had recently subjugated, which normally managed to limp along for 50-100 years after the imposition of Islam. Then true Islamic darkness settled over those societies, as well.

In other words, the Borg. "Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated."

Although Im sure thats not who the weenie liberal who thought up the Borg was thinking of...

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Nice post!

[allmendream]

Yes, their names suggest they were a Semitic people like Jews, Arabs and Phoenicians. Some think they were related to Hittites.

http://touregypt.net/featurestories/hyksos.htm

The Hyksos were basically a Semitic people who were able to wrestle control of Egypt from the early Second Intermediate rulers of the 13th Dynasty, inaugurating the 15th Dynasty. Their names mostly come from the West Semitic languages, and earlier suggestions that some of these people were Hurrian or even Hittite have not been confirmed. However, it is not easy to determine their origins within that Asiatic region, and at Tell el-Dab’a, the culture of the people was not static, but rapidly developed new traits and discarded old ones. Yet the reason for, and method of the cultural mixing and rapid development of Asiatics at Tell el-Dab’a remains unclear.

[RobbyS]

Interesting.

[numberonepal]

Etruscans were very proud of their shoes!

NOW I know why my wife studies Etruscan civilization. Here I was thinking it was the jewelry.

[null and void]

Bump

[Mrs. Don-o]

"Just think where they might be had Islam experienced a reformation similar to that of Christianity."

I've got to disagree with you there, Slapshot. "Reformation" is what Islam is going through right now, in the form of --- get ready for it --- radical Wahhabism.

Wahhabism is Islamic Puritanism. That's fascinatingly explained in this article from H.W. Crocker in Crisis magazine.

Wahhabism (radical Reformation) calls for scriptural literalism pristinely sheltered from reason or logic; strict moralism and the extirpation of all "impure" elements, conflation of Church and State on the basis of Cuius regio, eius religio (Church of England, Church of Sweden, Church of whatever-German-prince); et-freakin-cetera.

Islam --- religious falsehood--- doesn't need a Reformation. It needs to be replaced by religious truth.

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http://www.crisismagazine.com/julaug2006/feature1.htm

[zeugma]

Actually, Catholic Christianity was very interested in philosophy and science

That's because all of creation declares the glory and majesty of God. Can you really look at the Hubble Deep Field and not be in awe of His creation?

[Mrs. Don-o]

"They have NEVER been civilized and NEVER will be........ Genesis 16:12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;"

I don't think its a matter of race, or descent from a common ancestor. There are Muslims of all races (European, Asia, African, Mesoamerican); even the people called "Arabs" have in fact absorbed and assimilated many tribes (as the original posted article here explained.)

In other words, even "Arabs" are mixed-race, and "Muslims" are pan-racial.

The problem is culture; and, to be specific, religious culture.

The religious cultures based on the Koran and the Sunna are infected, possibly irreversibly, with the ideals of jihad and shari'a. In other words, their highest ideals are armed struggle, conquest, and the establishment of a religious political system in which the Umma (the Muslim community) dominates the Dhimmi (the submerged conquered people), living off of the cultural and physical resources of the Dhimmi until they're all used up, and then finding somebody else to rip off.

[RobbyS]

The conventional wisdom among Protestants who know nothing of the Reformation is that it was a “liberal” movement. But the “liberals” of Luther’s time were men like Erasmus or Thomas More, both of whom opposed Luheranism.

[BlueDragon]

"...Some think they were related to Hittites."

בת אמך את געלת
אישה ובניה ואחות אחותך את אשר געלו אנשיהן ובניהן אמכן חתית
ואחותך הגדולה שמרון היא ובנותיה היושבת על שמאולך

see Ezekiel 16. 16:43, as it is numbered in the King James

[BlueDragon]

ok. so they were only “neighbors”...

[GreenOgre]

muslims ain't nothing better than a bunch of Reavers.

"Eating people alive? Where's that get fun?"

[Ditto]

Without others contributing to these PC type speeches, most CEOs of very large Corporations would make sounds similar to those of early primates.

Perhaps a little bit of exaggeration there, but not too far off point. My experience with corp exec types is that many, probably the majority, tend to be very one dimensional people who put put their lives totally into the narrow world of their jobs to the exclusion of nearly every thing else. It is not that they are somehow stupid people, but they do tend to congregate in the shallow end of the intellectual pool and are quite often ripe for the picking for whatever political or social fads that come along.