Posted on 01/03/2008 6:04:59 PM PST by sionnsar
I sure hope so. I’m pretty sure that if this warming trend continues much longer, the AGW fear mongers are going to convince the general populace that we need to give away many of our auto/energy/heating freedoms, and tax fuel up the wazoo....all in their bogus claim of saving the planet.
bump^ -great post, backhoe!
He won’t either because he will have to give back his Nobel Peace Prize.
This conforms what I have suspected, the earth is in it’s natural heating/cooling cycle.
Wow, I guess that settles it then. Anything you'd like to add, like specific arguments?
“Anything you’d like to add, like specific arguments?”
Ask Fred, he knows.
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
I like Ruddiman’s hypothesis, because it’s reasonable and as “testable” as any other GW hypothesis out there.
Algorians claim we’re all gonna die because of man-made run-away global warming. (Oops — make that climate change, to cover any eventuality).
Opponents to Algore (i.e. rational people like FReepers) usually argue either that there is no global warming; or that there may be, but it’s entirely natural cycles.
Ruddiman gives us more ammo against the Goreheds. Only man-made global warming has kept us from a devastating ice-age for at least 2,000 years. We’re not gonna die, so long as we can keep up the good work of adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.
I think to be precise, the Greenhouse Effect is real but it's been stretched way beyond any empirically justifiable limits for political purposes. Russians are especially experienced at detecting this phenomenon after seventy years of sifting through Soviet bullshit.
It’s a good summary.
Concide, to the point.
Which is why it will be ignored by the MSM and National Geographic, etc.
No, I think the quote, and the quoted scientist, are both pretty much right.
The envirowhackos have seen this coming, so now they’ve changed the propaganda lingo to “global climate change” (all caused by humans, of course) rather than global warming.
“What he’s saying folks is the Greenhouse Effect is false.”
The greenhouse effect is very real, otherwise the earth would be a much colder place . But the greenhouse effect is 95% due to water vapor, and only 5% due to CO2, methane, nitrous oxide, and other gases. The total human contribution to the greenhouse effect is approximately 0.28%, while 99.72% of the greenhouse effect is due to natural causes. Humans putting more CO2 into the air has very little effect on the earth’s climate. It does however make plant’s grow faster, and gets wacko power-mad environmentalists very irate.
Yes, the atmosphere retains heat due to water vapor and gas density but that is not the Greenhouse effect as known and modeled. The Greenhouse effect is increased air density from CO2 and other man-made heavy gasses creates a barrier which diminishes heat dissipation, raising the overall temperature -in aggregate! Lumping water vapor and everything else which naturally retain heat and are atmospheric constants into the model gives it undue legitimacy making it harder to debunk.
The underlying premise of the Greenhouse effect model is patently false and should be discarded, not tweaked and amended to correlate with other processes.
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