Posted on 01/02/2008 10:39:29 AM PST by Maelstorm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEOJNw4lmlI
Alright! Mitt is for gays in the Boy Scouts. Flush him, Guliani and Huckabee.
How this guy can claim to be a conservative is beyond me.
I didn’t like Romney because of his socialized medicine plan in MA.
Now that I realize how socially liberal Romney has always been (until a month or so ago) with gay boyscout leaders, strongly pro-abortion, etc., I have been very disgusted with him.
That’s OK, the conservatives in Mass think he walks on water, so that’s good enough for me.
/sarcasm.
When you’re a pathological liar with lots of money, no conscience and an obsession for the WH on par with Al Gore, you can claim to be anything to get elected...
He never had my vote in the first place. But this will ensure he’ll lose alot more.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
There’s more flip flops with Mitt than there are on the beach...
Mitt is NOT a conservative....
And the Romney alleluia chorus remains strangely silent...
Don’t worry! It’s just a matter of moments till the Mass. conservatives show up to assure us he’s a real down to earth conservative. Never mind that liberal behind the curtain he’s just like Ronald Reagan maybe a tad more conservative. He was only liberal because he was in Mass. blah!blah!blah!
Probably in their BorgRomney regeneration chamber.
Wonder if Mormons would welcome a gay leader, just like they finally acknowledged that blacks can get into heaven, too. I'm getting to like this guy less and less.
By the end of this whole thing, Rudy may end up looking like the most honest among them. At least his flaws, inconsistencies, and sins are an open book. Wouldn't that be the ultimate irony if the most secular ended up looking the most genuine?
This is good, too.
At a glance, I respecfully disagree with your comments about LDS Scouts. Way too general in context just to name one disagreement.
The units I’ve dealt with have all had some peculiar requests, much like Jewish Troops do, but I don’t think that makes them guilty of disregarding basic Scouting principles. To give one example; They don’t like to travel on Sundays which makes summer camp interesting on Mondays when they arrive and are trying to check in when the program is getting started, likewise Camporees when they bug out on Sat. night.
I have yet to see the UW give money directly to any Scout unit. Most often it goes to the Council who then divies up what paltry few dollars are given by them.
As for the lost Scouts, do you have facts to back up your overgeneralization? That is not just an LDS problem, there are many other instances of Scouts going off and getting lost, I don’t see how that makes it a strictly LDS problem.
As for the isolationist comment, I will disagree with that as well. It may be peculiar to certain areas or Troops, but I don’t honestly believe it to be systemic as you profess to claim. I’ve seen quite a bit differently out here.
The problems I do have with LDS units are the high turnover rate in leaders and the lack of training these leaders get. Another is the fact that their ward leadership doesn’t seem to make it important either. To me, that is the crux of the problem. Many are just plain ignorant of the rules. How do I know? I’m the District Training Chair for my District as well as a Scoutmaster.
Maybe your experiences with LDS Scouts are different than mine.
FRegards,
SZ
If you think that clip is so terrible, what do you think should be his policy toward the Boy Scouts?
He said he was for the Boy Scouts deciding who they want for leaders, in other words no homosexual leaders.
He said all boys should be able to participate regardless of sexual orientation. In other words they are not going to try to decide if a boy is homosexual. Does that mean you are in favor of a screening process? What do you think that screening process should be like?
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You have a point here, but at least Mitt has the decency to pay lip service to conservatism while Rudy just gives it the bird.
Thank you for your reply. My husband was also a District Chairman and my three Eagle sons worked at our local camp as counselors. Your experience with LDS troops was different. Other than Special Needs Scouting, we did not have specific needs troops like kosher troops, etc. The LDS troops (and I think that there were only two, at most) were problematic. They were good people and totally committed to their children. However, the worldwide scouting program has been honed and perfected over decades and works. Their alterations might have worked for them but created distractions from other people doing their jobs in a larger camp environment. These people didn’t even like to have non-troop personnel sitting near them when they discussed their activities. In a word, they were segregationist and demanding, not team players.
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