Posted on 12/30/2007 5:50:44 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball
I have a very simple question, and I'd really like your take on it. I don't mean this as antagonistic, but I'd really like to hear your answer.
Somewhere between 70 and 80 percent of the people here on Free Republic consistently express their clear preference in poll after poll for Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter over Huckabee or Romney.
My question is: Why?
Why do you think, despite Romneys many millions spent and the claims of both Romney and Huckabee to be genuine conservatives, that Freepers haven't bought it? It is quite clear that most here are firm in their belief that neither Romney or Huckabee is an acceptable conservative. At least at this point of the game.
Why do we think this - in your opinion?
And then, why are we wrong?
Hank
at FR over a month and this is your first post @ FR
and that’s it ?
looks like a Mitt plant...
Huh? There was nothing in your silly email that showed anything anti-gun about Fred.
I’m concerned that Thompson has no experience running a large organization. People who have served as Legislators normally don’t make as good chief executives as governors. Look at all the trouble that GWB has with the State Dept.
I have a feeling that Romney would be able to rein in the bureacracy better than anyone else running.
That just shows where we differ and I’m OK with that. I have a similar dislike for Ron Paul. But I guess I would hold my nose and pull the lever. I would not tell any one!
“When/ if Thompson drops out, he’ll endorse McCain.”
What will be the Freeper Fredheads reaction?
Yes, Waterloo
GWB was governor of one of the largest states.
Well, he hasn’t gotten up a full head of steam yet, but we shall see ...
“wouldn’t the surgery cause the weight loss to be immediately noticed ? fat one day, not so fat two days later at White’s funeral ?
Yet nobody has come forward and said he was fat one day and not fat the next.”
It takes weeks and months.
I know someone who went through it.
About the same as if Rudy picks Duncan Hunter for VP.
It doesn’t seem that Hunter has a chance. That’s not the best reason but it does make a difference.
“Sorry ,I gave you an example of how he governed as opposed to how he is campaigning now. What you are saying is that he told the voters whatever they wanted to hear in liberal elections just as he is telling conservatives what they want to hear now. Have I got that wrong?”
Yes, you have that wrong.
I am asking for an example where Romney campaigned for one thing and governed as another. (He was Governor of Mass..)
thanks..that makes sense...
I don't see it that way at all. As a Christian he believes in 'Justice tempored with mercy'. After listening to him, I've come around to his point of view. Don't blame the kids for their parents errors - it's consistant with wanting to save an unborn child that was a product of rape ...
But he is committed to building a fence and cracking down on illegals.
Because it's not true. Consider this:
1) Romney vetoed drivers' lisences for illegals and vetoed in-state tution for illegals.
2) He vetoed a bill giving over-the-counter access to the morning after pill.
3) He vetoed a bill allowing embryo farming.
4) He did everything in his power to fight gay marraige in Massachusetts, including forcing the state legislature to vote on an amendment defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman.
5) Balanced the state budget (over $1 billion in deficit) by cutting spending and without raising taxes. In fact, he even cut a few. Yes, he did raise user fees for some government services, but making users of government services to pay for the cost of such services is the conservative position.
The only thing you can fault him on is being a Johnny Come Lately on Abortion. To that, all I can say is that people make mistakes and grow.
In the first line of my reply I addressed the topic. As I implied (or tried to), I hope you are correct and that Fred is good on RKBA.
The ‘meanwhile’ and thereafter had to do with other concerns. My apologies again on the RKBA issue.
Thanks.
Of Rudy, Huck, McCain and Mitt:
Who would you back when Fred and Duncan are out of the race?
So he did not campaign as a pro choice liberal for governor in Mass and as a Pro life conservative as a candidate for presidentnow.
Why do you think he's better than Romney?
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Supported Bush tax-cuts. Supports a border fence and no amnesty, with deportation of illegals and employer sanctions. Very strong Second Amendment supporter. Helped get Roberts and Alito through the Senate.
Consistent record of supporting federalism - leave to the states what is properly in their domain, with the Feds only doing what it in theirs.
You have to admit that only McCain among the frontrunners has a record of poking conservatives in the eye with a stick stronger than Romney. Whether it's dissing Reagan, dissing the NRA, supporting homosexual marriage, or attending Planned Parenthood events, he's got a pretty good record of being against things he now claims to support and visa versa.
Yes, Fred made a mistake with McCain Feingold, for which he has expressed regret. Other than that, he's been a down-the-line consistent conservative.
Hank
Any of the above. Not a discernable difference. All better than the three stooges on the other side. And that’s an insult to Moe, Larry and Curley.
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