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Plane owners stunned by out-of-state taxes
Boston Globe ^ | December 30, 2007 | Clarke Canfield

Posted on 12/30/2007 1:49:31 PM PST by Daffynition

PORTLAND, Maine - When Steve Kahn got a $26,000 tax bill on his airplane, he thought Maine Revenue Services had made a mistake. Kahn lives, works, and keeps his plane in Massachusetts.

But the bill was no error. It was part of the agency's efforts to collect taxes on aircraft owned by out-of-state residents, even though they bought their planes elsewhere and brought them to Maine only to visit.

A number of other states, from Florida to Washington, are doing the same as they grapple with budget shortfalls and as the Internet makes it easier to track the comings and goings of aircraft.

Many pilots are outraged.

"At best what Maine is doing is underhanded and devious; at worst it is illegal," Kahn said. "Either way, it's wrong."

Maine officials say they are simply enforcing the state's laws when they send bills, into six figures, to out-of-state plane owners.

At issue in Maine is the state's use tax, which applies to many goods and services bought out of state that are not subject to sales tax. In the case of airplanes, tax officials say, the law allows them to collect a 5 percent use tax from people who did not pay sales taxes on their planes if they brought their plane to Maine for more than 20 days, excluding time for maintenance and alterations, in the first year of ownership.

"We're charged with administering the law," said David Bauer, a tax policy analyst with Maine Revenue Services. "We didn't write it."

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Maine; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aviation; corruption; maine; massholes; revenueservices; somalia; taxes
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To: Daffynition

Here’s the unasked question:

By what Orwellian means does the state of Maine know how long visitors are in their state?


81 posted on 12/30/2007 3:40:07 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: metmom

Who is in charge of chalking the tires of all these planes to prove they have been parked in the state for the minimum number of days?


82 posted on 12/30/2007 3:41:24 PM PST by LetsRok
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To: Mr Rogers; antinomian; goodnesswins
As antinomian relates, Maine would file a lien for the taxes due which would show up immediately on your credit report. Not good. Said lien would grow extra fast against you, a non-voter with annual exorbitant interest, fees, penalties, and whatever else the socialists can come up with. We only think we are a free people.
83 posted on 12/30/2007 3:47:11 PM PST by Jacquerie (The New Republic - Every bit as reputable as CBS News)
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To: Daffynition

“The Legislature included $28.6 million from dormant gift cards in the budget for the two-year period that ends in mid-2009”

I tried that on my last loan application but they laughed me out of the office of Friendly Paycheck Spend-it-Now.


84 posted on 12/30/2007 3:50:47 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Daffynition
I wish I could get paid for every aircraft that flies over my property. I get a lot of military aircraft too, but I figure that I’m a partial owner of them, so they would be exempt.
85 posted on 12/30/2007 3:51:37 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Daffynition
When Steve Kahn got a $26,000 tax bill on his airplane, he thought Maine Revenue Services had made a mistake.

HaHahaHaHa! Why should I care? I don't have a plane.......

A few years back on my local talk radio station I was able to get thru to talk to some female senator babe from Maine who was applauding the tobacco settlements and how the monies were going to fund the states' healthcare systems......yada, yada, yada.

When I challenged her with direct and to the point questions, she could not answer them and instead commenced to fillibustering, as they all do when directly confronted.

Since the Maine-iac nico-nazis thumbed their noses at the smokers, I thumb my nose at any Maine-iac who since complains about any increases in taxes in their OWN personal enjoyments.........

My statement doesn't apply only to the Maine-iacs, but to every other citizen in this country who is now complaining about being singled out by your nanny state..........

86 posted on 12/30/2007 3:53:04 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Visions of sugarplums dancing in your head are probably caused by bad drugs.....)
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To: Daffynition
Soon, they will start to tax us BY THE MILES WE DRIVE. Count on it. It is coming. You will be required each year to show the readings on your registered vehicles. They will also be able to keep track each year so that if you come in lower than past years, they will want to know why, or they will simply tax you on those higher years. Just so you don’t cheat government out of ITS money. I have long wondered when they will start to tax us for miles driven. So, if say you drive an average of 15,000 miles per year. They might tax us like 50 cents a mile. Well, that is a tidy sum to collect from me, you, and every auto, truck, motor bike, big rig, bus, etc. on the road. Just think of the many social programs THE GOVERNMENT can then fund to buy votes from the sit on their butts at home and the illegals. Dimocrat voters all.
87 posted on 12/30/2007 3:54:15 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: Waco; Daffynition
"Sell Maine to canada."

Well Maine originally seceded from Massachusetts, which is where the plane owner lives. Maybe Massachusetts should go Abraham Lincoln on them.

88 posted on 12/30/2007 3:56:03 PM PST by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: mysterio

Maine is full of good ole boys yankee style and they are always trying to get one over on you. Most freepers reading this have probably seen, or now that I mention it, will notice a lot of truck trailers with Maine license plates. Most of them have never been in Maine and never will be. For years Maine offered a license on these which was good for the lifetime of the vehicle. This was a bargain for most truck companies because other states charge an annual licensing fee that in the long run costs more. The full faith and credit clause made these “Maine” license plates on the trailers legal in all fifty states, gave Maine a tidy windfall of tax revenue it didn’t have to provide any service to the user for, and screwed every other state out of what they reasonably would have expected to collect. “Let every jolly Maine man sing,” the Maine Fight Song says, and no wonder.


89 posted on 12/30/2007 3:56:31 PM PST by mathurine
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To: Daffynition

He could cut his landings in half if he bought a parachute...


90 posted on 12/30/2007 3:56:45 PM PST by tubebender (Lost another one to the Tag Line bandit...)
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To: Beelzebubba

I had a military buddy that was stationed in Kalifornia for a couple years. 5 years after leaving California he was denied a house loan because the State of Kalifornia had placed a lien against him for state income tax. He was never a Kalifornia resident and never received any notice of the lien.


91 posted on 12/30/2007 3:59:00 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: karnage

Main is Liberal right? Olympia Snow? you get what you vote for....

RINO.


92 posted on 12/30/2007 3:59:21 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Daffynition

I suppose if you have your very own plane then 26K should not mean all that very much to you.

Twenty Six Thousand dollars in taxes?

Are they on drugs or something?


93 posted on 12/30/2007 4:01:22 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: CindyDawg

One can only hope enough Americans wake up soon enough - pretty soon it will be too late to stop.


94 posted on 12/30/2007 4:01:50 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Jacquerie

It would be interesting to talk to a lawyer about a class action suit against Maine, based on taxing non-residents without warning.

20 years ago, my Mom was part of a large class action suit against Arizona...courts ruled the state acted illegally and they had to pay taxes collected plus interest. She received her final payment this summer, just before she died.

I find it hard to believe it is legal to tax someone without any warning that XYZ are taxable acts. I doubt we are required to be experts on all tax laws everywhere in the US.


95 posted on 12/30/2007 4:03:41 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Huckabee - the Republican John Edwards)
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To: theDentist
I wonder how long until Main sends tax bills to plane owners that overflew but never landed

Not as far fetched as you might think. A few years ago there was a movement afoot to levy state income tax on all the money earned by commercial pilots during the time they flew over each state. BTW its against Federal Law...Interstate Commerce et al. But they were serious.

96 posted on 12/30/2007 4:03:44 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: ccmay

I’ve got some really nice rope out in the barn if anybody wants to use it.


97 posted on 12/30/2007 4:15:58 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: RetiredArmy

We are already taxed on the number of miles we drive indirectly.... the federal and state tax on gasoline products is in fact equivalent as the amount of gas we buy is directly proportional to miles driven...


98 posted on 12/30/2007 4:25:33 PM PST by Froggie
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To: Daffynition
Today, airplanes...

Tomorrow, automobiles...

99 posted on 12/30/2007 4:30:32 PM PST by Gritty (Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: A. Morgan

Bookmarking


100 posted on 12/30/2007 4:34:43 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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