Rudy Giuliani likes to take credit for the transformation of the city's Times Square.
But some say the cleanup was the result of years of urban planning.
Posted on 12/28/2007 4:13:08 PM PST by jdm
Bookmark. I’m interested in what knowledgeable FReepers have to say. (I don’t know enough to comment on this.)
Look, I’m a Thompson/Hunter kind of guy, but give credit where credit is due. I saw first hand the turnaround in NYC under Rudy’s watch. I worked and went to school there and the transformation is remarkable.
Take it from someone who knows and lived through it... Rudy deserves most of the credit, along with Bratton... He got rid of squeegee men, folks who committ smaller crimes, cleaned up the city, REFUSED to even meet that scumbag charlatan Sharpton - for 8 years...
Rudy was fantastic for NYC - a Godsend.M
This is nothing more than a hit piece on Rudy, and no doubt, his detractors will jump all over this... FR has become pathetic....
Blast Rudy for other things, but don't pile on a bunch of leftist lies.
ML/NJ
So, what’s your point? Or are you just being ignorant, taking things out of context?
Thanks. :-)
That's the problem. The bureaucrats will spend YEARS studying the problems and avoiding any decisions that might OFFEND someone.
Rudy came in as said "Get it done!". And it was. My support for Rudy is largely based on his refusal to put up with nonsense from public unions and bureaucracies.
Dittos!
Dinkins flatly sucked!
One big example —— the Squeegee guys!
Under Dinkins, one night I was driving through NYC and the Squeegee guys came out when I was stopped at a traffic light. One guy was carrying a tire iron.....so I promptly ran the friggin light and was prepared to tell NYPD why the Hell I ran the light.
Rudy got rid of the Squeegee guys!!!!!
When CBS and AP get together you know the lib slimeliars are at it again. This peiece is a smear and nothing else. They are still afraid of Rudy.
More wishful revisionism from the Friends of David Dinkins...
I can tell you that folks I know, family and friends who either lived or worked in NYC or traveled there for business or shopping, theater, etc. saw a real improvement in the overall quality of life and civility in the city.
Under “General” Dinkins and Koch before him, things had gotten really, really bad and even native New Yorkers were shocked and disgusted - and that’s saying a lot.
The urban planning may have been in the works for a while but investors and tourists won’t come if they are going to be the victims of petty and not so petty crime.
What Giuliani brought to the table was zero tolerance policing. Meaning that petty thieves, panhandlers, squeegee kids (who were very aggressive panhandlers) were going to be arrested, were as before they were largely being ignored.
To his credit, he was a good mayor overall but he won’t get my vote for President. Now if he’d like to come to Baltimore and help us do something about our out of control violent crime and murder rate and get the aggressive panhandlers out of Harbor Place and other restaurant and entertainment areas…..
BUT he has single handedly transformed NYC from a cess pool of crime and anything goes attitude to one of the safest liveable big cities in the world.
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I don’t like to quote the Village Voice but this article talks about a lot of things the Mayor did.
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/9835,goldstein,3394,1.html
Agreed. Rudy accomplished a great deal as mayor of New York City—where any change is an uphill battle. That doesn’t mean he should be president but these kinds of attacks are just silly.
Screw Giuliani!
All I can say is that I’ve been to Times Square before and after Giuliani and the difference is remarkable! And it wasn’t years of urban planning. It was much quicker than that.
Funny how the authors of the article quote Tom Duane, the openly gay councilman who fought Giuliani every step of the way in closing down the gay porn shops and peepshows.
Duane claimed that gays were being discriminated against during the peepshow crackdown because they wouldn’t have any place to go once they were shut down.
You would think Duane would be thankful that the shutdown saved thousands of lives because since his compadres weren’t able to spread AIDS anonymously once the shops were closed.
That’s silly.
He ain’t nekkid.
;^)
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