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To: gitmo
First a disclaimer.... Rudy is NOT my choice. He's not even 2nd 3rd or 4th...

Take it from someone who knows and lived through it... Rudy deserves most of the credit, along with Bratton... He got rid of squeegee men, folks who committ smaller crimes, cleaned up the city, REFUSED to even meet that scumbag charlatan Sharpton - for 8 years...

Rudy was fantastic for NYC - a Godsend.M

This is nothing more than a hit piece on Rudy, and no doubt, his detractors will jump all over this... FR has become pathetic....

Blast Rudy for other things, but don't pile on a bunch of leftist lies.

5 posted on 12/28/2007 4:29:42 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican

Thanks. :-)


8 posted on 12/28/2007 4:33:38 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: NYC Republican
“First a disclaimer.... Rudy is NOT my choice. He’s not even 2nd 3rd or 4th...”
“Rudy was fantastic for NYC - a Godsend.M”

Dittos!

Dinkins flatly sucked!

One big example —— the Squeegee guys!

Under Dinkins, one night I was driving through NYC and the Squeegee guys came out when I was stopped at a traffic light. One guy was carrying a tire iron.....so I promptly ran the friggin light and was prepared to tell NYPD why the Hell I ran the light.

Rudy got rid of the Squeegee guys!!!!!

10 posted on 12/28/2007 4:38:32 PM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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To: NYC Republican
I agree without reservation. I hold no brief for Rudy Guiliani insofar as his political aspirations are involved, but he made a tremendous difference in New York City's quality of life. I lived there at perhaps its nadir - the Dinkins Years - and to call New York a "cesspool" during that time might be doing an injustice to septic systems. When I returned (10 years later) the difference was not only apparent, it was staggering.

The piles of garbage at the entrance to the George Washington Bridge, once thigh-high, had been swept away. The aggressive squeegee-men and hookers at the tunnel entrances were gone. The area around Times Square and up and down 42nd Street had been magically transformed from Gomorrah back into Gotham. Graffitti, that ubiquitous sign of urban rot, was greatly subdued, if not invisible. Whatever else you might want to say about Mr. Guiliani, he deserves credit for restoring the luster to a great city that had been given over to rust and decay.

21 posted on 12/28/2007 4:47:06 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: NYC Republican
Take it from someone who knows and lived through it... Rudy deserves most of the credit, along with Bratton... He got rid of squeegee men, folks who committ smaller crimes, cleaned up the city, REFUSED to even meet that scumbag charlatan Sharpton - for 8 years...

Rudy was fantastic for NYC - a Godsend.M

Absolutely agree ... lived in Fairfield County, CT (close in to NYC) during the Dinkins, and the early years of Rudy. Business took me into NYC frequently ... Dinkins was a complete no talent bust ... Guiliani was kick-butt, make it right, from the gitgo. His immediate predecessors, although aided and abetted by the liberal (read NY Times) media, were clueless in the extreme ... he (Rudy) made a significant difference.

35 posted on 12/28/2007 5:11:51 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: NYC Republican

I agree with you completely. I was born in upstate NY and my parents would never go to the “city” because it was so awful. Driving to the airports the highways were littered with dead cars left there forever. NYC changed for the better while Rudy was in office. I can speak personally of the change as I live in CT now as an adult and we do not fear the “city” at all. Times Square is amazing in its transformation. This naked guy playing the guitar I have never seen.
We feel safer in Manhattan than in Hartford or New Haven, CT.


46 posted on 12/28/2007 5:40:46 PM PST by mojo114 (Happy New Year!)
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To: NYC Republican

Take it from someone who knows and lived through it... Rudy deserves most of the credit, along with Bratton... He got rid of squeegee men, folks who committ smaller crimes, cleaned up the city, REFUSED to even meet that scumbag charlatan Sharpton - for 8 years...

Rudy was fantastic for NYC - a Godsend.M

This is nothing more than a hit piece on Rudy, and no doubt, his detractors will jump all over this... FR has become pathetic....

Blast Rudy for other things, but don’t pile on a bunch of leftist lies.


Agree wholeheartedly. Except Rudy is my first choice, and much of what you’ve described about him is why.


147 posted on 12/28/2007 9:43:56 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: NYC Republican

“First a disclaimer.... Rudy is NOT my choice. He’s not even 2nd 3rd or 4th...
Take it from someone who knows and lived through it... Rudy deserves most of the credit, along with Bratton... He got rid of squeegee men, folks who committ smaller crimes, cleaned up the city, REFUSED to even meet that scumbag charlatan Sharpton - for 8 years...

Rudy was fantastic for NYC - a Godsend.M

This is nothing more than a hit piece on Rudy, and no doubt, his detractors will jump all over this... FR has become pathetic....

Blast Rudy for other things, but don’t pile on a bunch of leftist lies.”

Rudy is about my last or second from last choice. (None of the Dems are considered a choice).

That said, urban development only makes the damage more expensive, unless the crime is cleaned up. Someone cleaned up the crime and the only one taking credit is Rudy. Unless I get some evidence that he was not the one to clean up the crime, I have to give him credit for cleaning up NYC.

That does not mean I will vote for him in the primary, I won’t. But I won’t bash him either.


148 posted on 12/28/2007 9:45:17 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: NYC Republican
the nation as a whole saw a MAJOR decline in crime in the early 90's. not just NYC. the crack wars had ended, employment was up, "little brother" syndrome was taking place, and incarceration was through the roof. in effect, the criminals were all in jail.

even so, rudy had little to do with the crime decline. PC Bratton was the architect of the broken windows strategy implementation as well as COMPSTAT.

rudy fired bratton when bratton got the cover of time magazine. rudy does not like competition for publicity. rudy's solution for gun crime in NYC: confiscate lawful guns that would have never been used in a crime. bratton's solution: let the cops be cops and get the illegal guns off the streets.

151 posted on 12/28/2007 9:52:15 PM PST by thefactor
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To: NYC Republican
FR has become pathetic

Yeah, let's not bash Rudy but it's OK to bash Dr. Paul.

162 posted on 12/28/2007 10:28:54 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Congratulations Brett Favre! All-time NFL leader in career passing yards)
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To: NYC Republican

Rudy has a solid record in running NYC city.

I dont like his anti-constitution positions on some issues, but he is not a bad figure as some here paint him to be.

He is vastly more experienced and capable than any of the Dems running for the Presidency.


190 posted on 12/29/2007 12:06:26 AM PST by GregH
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To: NYC Republican
This is nothing more than a hit piece on Rudy, and no doubt, his detractors will jump all over this... FR has become pathetic....

I don't understand why you think posting this article was pathetic. This was not a hit piece. It was a fairly balanced view of what Giuliani was actually responsible for doing. It states that his efforts wouldn't have been possible without prior city planning, but it clearly states what he did to make the project a success.

200 posted on 12/29/2007 6:24:41 AM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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