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Paul: Country is moving toward fascism
The Hill ^ | December 23, 2007 | Klaus Marre |

Posted on 12/23/2007 6:44:53 PM PST by AmericanMade1776

White House hopeful Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said Sunday that the U.S. is moving toward fascism, stating that corporations are increasingly “running the show” and citizens are being deprived of their liberties.

Paul clarified that he did not refer to the type of fascism that Adolf Hitler practiced in Germany. “We’re not moving toward Hitler-type fascism, but we’re moving toward a softer fascism,” Paul said on NBC’s Meet the Press. “Loss of civil liberties, corporations running the show, big government in bed with big business.”

The lawmaker said the U.S. is moving toward “corporatism.” He also lashed out at a system in which those are criticized as unpatriotic who do not support the war in Iraq or the Patriot Act.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911truth; endorsedbydu; imacommieronnie; moveondotorgcampaign; pauliistinian; repealsocialism; ronpaul; thedailykoscandidate
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To: inkling

hope he sinks like a lead zeppelin..


101 posted on 12/23/2007 8:00:06 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: sgtyork

“And others can draw the conclusion from this nexus of neo-nazis and truthers that a candidate presents a danger to the centrist, freeom-loving, body politic.”

Take a population (say the US),and you are going to have a wide range of views in the individual vote-sheep. I guess it is like a bell curve, though I bet a surprising number of people’s views would resemble fascism if they were given a detailed political philosophy inventory (sort of an MMPI for political views), and a surprising number would come out far more libertarian than the body politic represents.

At any rate, you are going to have small fringe groups that openly identify themselves outside of the mainstream accepted views. This can be racism, marxism, and any number of other ism’s almost none of use would like to subscribe to.

As far as I can tell, Paul is the only candidate whose philosophy is ‘I don’t care what you think or believe, if you mind your own business and don’t break the law/hurt anybody.’ Nevermind that the worldview of many of these fringe donors is actually contrary to Paul’s own philosophy - if they are stupid enough to send him money, he will take it.

Note that I am not saying all of his contributors meet that description, as you know well individual candidates don’t see who sends contributions and you can take ANY major candidate’s donor list and find people convicted of any number of crimes who are donating. That is a gotcha game.


102 posted on 12/23/2007 8:11:26 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: AmericanMade1776

He could hang around with Cynthia McKinney and the Green Party. She might even throw him out.


103 posted on 12/23/2007 8:13:18 PM PST by BobS (Did Santa just say haha, HO ?!)
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To: WoofDog123

Are they more responsive to market needs of Pharmaceutical companies

Perhaps, but at the same time they have become more responsive to the health care market needs of the consumer. We lead the world in advances in therapeutic medications. And yes pharma ceos - and top-level chemists , physicians and biologists are becoming wealthy.

The number of OTC drugs has certainly been convenient. Has it helped the pharma companies as well?

Not just convenient - it has reduced the costs to the consumer. —While at the same time perhaps increasing profits to the pharma companies. I believe in market capitalism and this is an example of the government getting out of the way (as you would advocate) for a win-win.


104 posted on 12/23/2007 8:14:07 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: WoofDog123

But when David Duke tried to make himself a Republican he was shown the door.


105 posted on 12/23/2007 8:15:26 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: AmericanMade1776
If you and your man, Ron Paul do not like the Republican Party, then why don’t you get out of it?

Instead of destroying what the Republican Party stood for -- for about 135 years -- why don't you neo-cons go start your own party?

106 posted on 12/23/2007 8:15:41 PM PST by xrp (Ron Paul: The RIGHT way to vote for freedom.)
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To: sgtyork

Thanks for your answer.

I generally agree with your statements.

Speculative question - if this were disadvantageous to pharma companies (for whatever reason), would it still be happening? I realize the FDA has long been criticized for being slower than its european counterparts regardless of pharma company opinions.


107 posted on 12/23/2007 8:17:23 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: AmericanMade1776
Please let me help you rewrite your post:

No... the Jury is in, and Ron Paul is a NUT.

Despite the fact that Mr. Paul has the highest rating of all Congressman by the National Taxpayers Union (84%) I can not support him for POTUS because I don't agree with his foreign policy

American Taxpayers Union Congressional Rankings for 2006

There. Much better.

108 posted on 12/23/2007 8:17:43 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Country is moving toward fascism...

In the film JFK, Kevin Bacon played a homosexual prostitute who said the same thing.

109 posted on 12/23/2007 8:19:19 PM PST by Petronski (Willard Myth Romney: 47% negatives)
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To: AmericanMade1776
"...George Soros has contributed to Ron Paul"

I had never heard that before, so I did a FReep search and found this...

Final Proof that Ron Paul is obtaining money from George Soros! Free Republic Thread Dec 1 2007

110 posted on 12/23/2007 8:20:56 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: sgtyork

Yeah, despite there being black politicians who are just as racist in the DNC. White racists and black racists are not equal.

Regardless, an new, openly racist white pol isn’t gonna be allowed in. A libertarian who apparently is not racist but just believes it is not the government’s business is a different issue, particularly when he has held a congressional seat for decades.

If Paul espoused some of Duke’s more inflamatory views, he would be gone from the GOP in a most celebrated fashion, resembling the trent lott birthday comments for Thurmond, (which I really don’t believe merited comment, much less the public crucifixion of Lott. He was trying to say something nice at the party of a 100-year-old guy who may not have been cognizent of it anyway.)


111 posted on 12/23/2007 8:22:13 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Petronski
In the film JFK, Kevin Bacon played a homosexual prostitute who said the same thing.

"You don't know nuttin' about pow-ah missah Garrison cause you never been (censored) up the (censored)!

I have a Kevin Bacon score of 1, as I was in a scene in Sex and the City with Sarah Jessica Parker, who was in Footloose with Kevin Bacon.

112 posted on 12/23/2007 8:26:09 PM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: RDTF
"hope he sinks like a lead zeppelin.."

Doesn't he play Led Zeppelin in his bus real loud?

113 posted on 12/23/2007 8:26:26 PM PST by BobS (Did Santa just say haha, HO ?!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
This is the Houston Chronicle: “Representative Ron Paul has long crusaded against a big central government. But he also” “represented a congressional district that’s consistently among the top in Texas in its reliance on dollars from Washington.

One of many examples of Saddam Paul's utter hypocrisy.

114 posted on 12/23/2007 8:28:09 PM PST by Allegra (HOME for the Holidays! Merry Christmas to my "family" back in Iraq.)
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To: inkling

LOL
That made my day.


115 posted on 12/23/2007 8:28:49 PM PST by winstonwolf33 (One more word about global warming from you, I'm gonna stick a carbon footprint up your ass.)
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To: tips up
I'm no Paul fan. I watched him on MTP this AM and found his arguments and positions to be very conservative and constitutional.

I was surprised by the image the "MSM" has given me and what he claims to be for. He might be worth a second look.

I have the broadcast saved on DVR if needed.

Merry Christmas

116 posted on 12/23/2007 8:28:57 PM PST by theymakemesick (End welfare and the crops will be picked)
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To: traviskicks; AmericanMade1776
REP. PAUL: We have to cut spending. You can't get rid of the income tax if you don't get rid of some spending.

But not on wild shrimp. We can't cut spending on wild shrimp.

117 posted on 12/23/2007 8:30:41 PM PST by Allegra (HOME for the Holidays! Merry Christmas to my "family" back in Iraq.)
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To: inkling



118 posted on 12/23/2007 8:36:15 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: AmericanMade1776
To all

I love how these clowns throw the word Fascism around.
Have any of them actually gone and read Fascist tracts from the 1920s & 1930s? A good place to read these Fascist political tracts is at “www.oswaldmosley.com”. After you read them, the political part that comes to mind, that advocates policies much closer to Fascism (At least Oswald Mosleys’s flavor of Fascism!)is not the GOP !

All Paul is, is another pseudo-intellectual crank this time masquerading in libertarian clothing. Aside: Fascism was quite fashionable in the salons of Europe after WWI. The intellectual elite were attracted to either Fascism or Socialism, but rarely freedom. It still seems the case today!

119 posted on 12/23/2007 8:42:41 PM PST by Reily
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To: AmericanMade1776

Rather ironic comments coming from a man who is beloved by neo-Nazis, Klansman and white supremacists in general.


120 posted on 12/23/2007 8:51:30 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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