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Ron PaulPots' MoveOn/GeorgeSoros Support!
TownHall.com ^ | 12.20.2007 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 12/19/2007 9:36:41 PM PST by jodiluvshoes

Desperate to take support from wherever he can get it.

Some - well more like all of two readers have gotten a little cross-eyed over the fact that I dared to imply that George Soros/MoveOn forces were working covertly to assist the most Soros-like candidate on the GOP ticket.

The truth is some of the support has been covert, some of it rather obvious...

For instance one MoveOn group assisted in the funding and production of this television ad:

(Excerpt) Read more at kevinmccullough.townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; 911truth; clinton2008; clintonistas; commieron; donors; elections; endorsedbydu; fundedbysoros; georgesoros; gwot; kevinmccullough; moveon; moveondotorg; moveonorg; nutjob; paulestinians; ronpaul; soros; splitthevote; supportedbysoros; thedailykoscandidate
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To: tpanther
. . . don’t let that bother you.

Believe me, it doesn't. That whole thing is a red herring. We've got some fine candidates vying for office. The libs can't hold a candle to a single one of them, except perhaps Rudolph.

221 posted on 12/20/2007 6:17:41 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: rineaux

I don’t need to. I think you folks project an awful lot.

It really only takes one time...I never got any impression that the Huckster implied, subtly or not that he was the only Christian running.

The Huckster’s not my choice, but that’s besides the point.


222 posted on 12/20/2007 6:19:07 PM PST by tpanther
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

LGF has the smoking gun?? We are doomed. LOL.

Guy walks up inside a crowd and takes pictures with a candidate, in this case, Ron Paul, so now he is guilty of associating with a known white supremist?

If that is the case, Black is really getting his moneys worth.


223 posted on 12/20/2007 6:25:20 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: tpanther

In case you missed it, neither myself nor Ron Paul are ignorant of the need to use force in defending ourselves and others, and that includes our rightful and necessary part in WWII. Blessings to you as you serve in the Air Force on behalf of our country and its freedoms.


224 posted on 12/20/2007 6:25:25 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: tpanther

Good for you. Have a great Christmas.

Chat next year.


225 posted on 12/20/2007 6:27:16 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; billbears; KDD; Puddleglum; traviskicks; SJackson

Just read and saw the photo. It is him. Funny thing is, it is just like I said, Paul is at a rally and these two nitwits come up and take a picture with him. He also signs an autograph for the son.

People come up and take photos at these rallies and I am more than positive Ron Paul did not know who he was. SO WHO GIVES AN F!!!

Let the fodder begin.


226 posted on 12/20/2007 6:35:25 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: airborne
A Ron Paul-Kucinich match is the way to go. They could swap wives on the bus even!

They would have to deal with Cynthia McKinney in the end.
She's on the Green Party ticket.

227 posted on 12/20/2007 6:36:00 PM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

What I didn’t miss is his stance on pulling out of Iraq to leave behind an unknown nightmare in the vacuum, and untold damage to the U.S.

We’re committed now after 5 years.

We didn’t leave Kuwait after the first gulf war. Kuwaitis are happy we’re there. We have a family friend, retired U.S. Army ranger Colonel that has his own business there providing security. Really decent people there that appreciate us more than alot of people here will ever know.

For all the horrible mistakes we’ve made consider:

When Rumsfeld suggested we remove our bases from Germany to Poland, the Germans freaked. We’ve still downsized quite a bit over the years.

Japan is a better place as well, even after 60+ years of so-called “occupation”. Yet they are of the same mindset.

The fact is the U.N. has proven time and again they’re just not going to do the job.

Iraqis are seeing that this time we’re there to ensure their freedoms as well.

People are losing their lives to GET here to taste freedom, not flee it. Maybe if other places had 1/10th of a chance at freedom, we wouldn’t be so overwhelmed. Just today I saw that Cubans are still missing at sea trying to get here and the numbers of Cubans fleeing are up.

Leaving Iraq now would be unconscionable for free Iraqis and a disater for the U.S. and middle east.

Thanks for your kind words!


228 posted on 12/20/2007 6:40:37 PM PST by tpanther
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To: tpanther
"Actually, I’m processing back into the Air Force. I already did 10 years"

Congrats and best wishes. Are they sending you to Lackland for 2 weeks as a refresher? Are there any advanced tech training schools on your orders before going to your assignment? I was in.

229 posted on 12/20/2007 6:48:40 PM PST by BobS (I><P>)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I saw a picture of Churchill with Stalin once. They were even sitting down together.


230 posted on 12/20/2007 6:57:06 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BobS

I’m still applying. At first I was worried, I’ll be 47 next month and the age limit is 47, but with prior service that’s not gonna be a problem. My particular recruiter says he’s yet to have a nurse applicant turned away. So sometime early next year I hope. With prior service I’ll go as a Captain.

It takes months, becuase they have to place you into classes, differnt from what we did at Lackland. And processing takes awhile. Alot longer than enlisted.

And yes, without hospital experince nurses go to a 10 week course, otherwise you just get assigned immediately after OTS. Not a bad deal cause they guarantee a base you pick on a list of 5 so long as they need nurses at your choices. With the shortage all of them practically do.

I’ll go to Maxwell for OTS for 4 weeks. MD’s, lawyers, chaplains and nurses go to the short OTS course. It’s 6 weeks for everyone else.

Thanks to all for the well wishes!


231 posted on 12/20/2007 7:05:18 PM PST by tpanther
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To: tpanther
What I didn’t miss is his stance on pulling out of Iraq to leave behind an unknown nightmare in the vacuum, and untold damage to the U.S.

Paul is blunt about this, to be sure. I'd rather hear it spoken by someone who has demonstrated respect for individual liberty and accountability throughout his career as a congressman than from a mealymouthed peacemaker who has no sense of the real world.

I don't think anyone can realistically and accurately assess what will happen in Iraq down the road. How long do we stay? Indefinitely? What do we expect from this venture? What's to prevent the freedom-loving people of Iraq from immigrating to the USA? Oh yeah. Closed border.

Should we really think a few hundred Al Qaeda fanatics will be relevant in a land of millions who despise their disregard for innocent human life, whether or not our troops are present? I reckon the news media would like to give them power they don't have or deserve, but that's about it.

The 9/11 attacks give rise to fears that may not be founded upon reality. Yes, they were well-planned, devastating, humiliating, and infuriating. The typical reaction would be to address them without asking hard questions. Ron Paul at least has the fearlessness to ask them.

Look at Al Qaeda's statements. Would they lie when expressing their reason for ill will? If it is world domination by Islam they seek, it just ain't gonna happen, Ron Paul or not.

But let's suppose we walk into someone else's life and tell them how to live it. They tell us, in so many words, to go away. But we don't like what we hear, so we stay anyway. We're bigger and better, after all. After so many attempts at saying, "Go away" with no result other than a more intrusive presence, there comes a response we may not like.

Now, we can pretend the response was totally unprovoked. And that is essentially what folks are doing who blather "Blame America first" as an excuse to avoid asking what caused the response. In this case it was not a nebulous principle like "freedom", but a physical, regulatory, culturally repulsive presence among people who ought to be allowed to determine for themselves how they want to live their lives.

Individually speaking, if I am invited to the home of someone who practices a faith other than mine, and I accept the invitation, I had better be willing to 1.) accept whatever stipulations they might place on me as I enter their home, or 2.) be ready and willing to leave if their stipulations prove too burdensome. It's just the reasonable way to be.

If we force other peoples to accept our liberties, we're not really granting them liberty, are we? Or are we? And this is not to say that our influence in world affairs has been wholly unsalutary. In general we have done much good in many places. But let us proceed with caution and high regard for differences between ourselves and others.

232 posted on 12/20/2007 7:49:36 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: jodiluvshoes
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i still say RuPaul has a better shot...
233 posted on 12/20/2007 8:02:58 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: rmlew

Well, then he needs to be extradited for his crimes against Hungarian Jews. Bottom line is, Soros is a criminal and deserves to be somebody’s “girlfriend”.


234 posted on 12/20/2007 8:06:13 PM PST by bigdcaldavis ("Screw Kahlifornia. Gimme Kolinahr." - Me)
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To: jodiluvshoes; All
Sword At-The-Ready has the Ron Paul agenda pegged

http://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/ron-paul-does-not-belong-in-gop-race/

Aside from the fact that many Ron Paul supporters worship him as a messianic figure, sole hope for the USA and Deliverer from evil; or the fact a bunch of them are the same anti-war moveOn.org Leftist kook conspiracists that populate Airhead America and the Democrat Underground; an increasing number of Conservatives and Constitutionalists recognize that Ron Paul is simply unfit for the role of Commander-In-Chief.

His Libertarian baggage, Blame-America-First and appeasement of our enemies disqualifies him for the the position in my opinion. As time wears on, he is proving he really does not belong in the GOP either. His increasing shrill anti-war rants put him more in unity with the NeoLeft and nuts like Code Pink than with Conservatives.

Ron Paul attracts a rabid following of Isolationists, Peaceniks, Pro-druggies, anti-semites, NWO Conspiracists, anti-Capitalists, skinheads and anti-government anarchists, along with some mad-as-hell conservatives fed-up with the GOP’s push for Amnesty for Illegals and their runaway spending. His is a bandwagon of the “Throw-The-Bums-Out” movement with an anti-war Leftist twist.

But is this the guy we want at the top spot? A guy who blames America for the world’s woes; who thinks that 17th century geopolitical strategy works in the modern world; who seeks to appease Jihadists; who seeks an Isolationist America?

235 posted on 12/20/2007 8:42:10 PM PST by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

>>NO Republican activists would be that loony<<

HAHA! Houston Republican activists did something very similar during rush hour. We picked a location close to downtown and poked white plastic cups into the cross hatches of the safety screen, spelling out IMPEACH CLINTON! Our traffic helicopter caught us up there and we made the news - that is until the democrap mayor found out and forced us to shut it down after an hour or so. Not to mention the news cameras that rushed to cover us just in time for the evening news.

It was a great vantage point... As cars passed below us they’d honk. We could see clearly into each vehicle and most of the cops and truckers were honking in support. It was FUN! ;-)


236 posted on 12/20/2007 8:46:25 PM PST by Humidston (I'm offended)
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To: april15Bendovr

Funny that they seem to have no problem with the assortment of pro-illegal immigration, tax raising, pro-abortion, and anti-gun candidates running in the GOP primary.


237 posted on 12/21/2007 2:04:28 AM PST by ConservativeJen
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I saw them in other places too.


238 posted on 12/21/2007 4:53:51 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I don’t think anyone can realistically and accurately assess what will happen in Iraq down the road. How long do we stay? Indefinitely? What do we expect from this venture? What’s to prevent the freedom-loving people of Iraq from immigrating to the USA? Oh yeah. Closed border.

>>>>>We’ve been in Germany and Japan for an awful long time, but I can’t imagine what either place would be like now had we left too early. Perhaps soviet, perhaps worse, but NOT better by any stretch. IN FACT we always hear WW2 was OUR fault because we left too soon after WW1 !!!!

Again, I imagine they won’t WANT to immigrate if they feel safer at home!


But let’s suppose we walk into someone else’s life and tell them how to live it. They tell us, in so many words, to go away. But we don’t like what we hear, so we stay anyway. We’re bigger and better, after all. After so many attempts at saying, “Go away” with no result other than a more intrusive presence, there comes a response we may not like.

>>>>>I don’t get the impression most Iraqis are telling us to go away. Now once they’re secure, sure, and I’d agree that once they have control we go home, but to pull out now when they’re not even remotely ready is absurd.


Now, we can pretend the response was totally unprovoked. And that is essentially what folks are doing who blather “Blame America first” as an excuse to avoid asking what caused the response. In this case it was not a nebulous principle like “freedom”, but a physical, regulatory, culturally repulsive presence among people who ought to be allowed to determine for themselves how they want to live their lives.

>>>>>Replace al-qaeda with nazi and see if any of that makes sense to you. I can’t imagine Iraqis “wanting to live their lives that way” with average Iraqis disappearing, tortured, raped etc. Kurds, shias, sunnis...first under Saddam then targeted by al-qaeda, with Iran waiting in the wings to pounce. IF we’re too “regulatory” and “culturally repulsive”, MY GOD what would you call Saddam’s rule? I HOPE you’re not implying the Iraqis were actually comfy with that!

IN FACT you make a better argument for nazi Germany because for the most part the Gestapo came and got communists, Jews, gypsies, the handicapped etc. The average German merely turned a blind eye. So yeah, a few fanatical al-qaeda thugs can indeed terrorize an entire country! A whole continent, several continents, over half the world in fact just 60-70 years ago! It’s happened before. And to assert people ANYWHERE in the world being under thug rule see it as self-determination is also absurd.


Look at Al Qaeda’s statements. Would they lie when expressing their reason for ill will? If it is world domination by Islam they seek, it just ain’t gonna happen, Ron Paul or not.

>>>>>>You really think they’ll tell the truth? It won’t happen when people stand up to them. Wishing them away hasn’t worked, history has proven over and over that approach is the very definition of abject failure.

Also, to assert they’ll just go home, let alone somehow stay home and aren’t interested in world domination proves you’re not listening to them afterall. Let alone paying attention to Europe. Where isolationism and turning blind eyes to other’s sufferings tend to explode all over the world stage.


239 posted on 12/21/2007 5:49:08 AM PST by tpanther
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To: tpanther

Thanks for the reply. Al Qaeda doesn’t even come close to Nazi in terms of strength. They are not a nationalized group. They are marginalized simply by virtue of their twisted minds; no mass appeal.

Meanwhile, it seems the normal way of life for middle eastern types is to fight among themselves. Let ‘em have at it.


240 posted on 12/21/2007 6:32:04 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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