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US minorities don't trust each other
Breibart.com via The Drudge Report ^ | Dec 12 01:27 PM US/Eastern | AFP Staff

Posted on 12/12/2007 11:31:18 AM PST by Paleo Conservative

The three main minorities in the United States -- blacks, Hispanics and Asians -- have little trust for each other and hold prejudiced views about Americans of different ethnic origins to their own, a poll showed Wednesday.

"This extraordinary poll reveals some unflattering realities that exist in America today," said Sandy Close, head of new America Media (NAM) which sponsored the poll together with ethnic media groups.

Forty-four percent of Hispanics and 47 percent of Asians are "afraid of African-Americans because they are responsible for most of the crime," the survey of 1,105 adults drawn from the three ethnic groups showed.

More than half of black Americans polled and 46 percent of Hispanics said Asian business owners do not treat them with respect.

And half of African-Americans said Latin American immigrants "are taking jobs, housing and political power away from the black community."

Hispanics and Asians, whose populations are made up mainly of immigrants, were positive about the American dream, saying that those who work hard in the United States reap the rewards of their toil.

In contrast, more than 60 percent of African-Americans dismissed the American dream as not working for them.

All three ethnic groups viewed white Americans in a more favorable light than they did members of another minority.

Sixty-one percent of Hispanics, 54 percent of Asians and 47 percent of African-Americans said they would rather do business with whites than members of the other two groups.

"The poll reaffirms that while race relations between ethnic groups and whites grab the headlines, there are also serious racial problems between minority groups in America," said Sergio Bendixen, an expert on Hispanic and multilingual polling.

"Blacks feel they are left out of the American Dream and are being displaced by newcomers, and each group buys into the negative stereotypes about the other two," he said.

The three minority groups did agree that the United States would be a better place if blacks, Asians and Hispanics held more authoritative positions at universities, in business, media and government.

They also said they believe racial tensions in the United States will ease over the next 10 years.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: asianamericans; blacks; captainobvious; diversity; diversityisstrength; hispanics; racebaiting; racialdivision; racism
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To: MrB

No.Let me google him.


61 posted on 12/12/2007 2:26:28 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: freeangel
We NEVER were a "melting pot." The term itself was originally coined by Socialists at the turn of the 19th century, in order to build "solidarity" among the working classes.

If we were a melting pot, there would be no black or Asian people in the US. Even "white" ethnic groups took three generations to start intermarrying with others.

Even if one looks at Brazil, where there are alot of racially mixed people who don't consider themselves black or white, there are still divisions. Most of the racially mixed folk are descended from folks who mixed along time ago. White folks don't usually marry dark skinned mulattos, who don't usually marry blacks down there.

However, a key difference between the English speaking world and the Spanish/Portuguese/French speaking world is that in the former, if you had any degree of black blood, you were considered "black", in the latter, you were considered "near white."

62 posted on 12/12/2007 2:29:25 PM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Riverman94610

Personal experiences color (pun intended) one’s perspective on race. I see this all the time on FR (especially when talking with Southern Californians) and, well, in myself.


63 posted on 12/12/2007 2:30:50 PM PST by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Clemenza

Very true.However,it is not a very scientific way to come to a rational conclusion.
Yet emotions,not logic,seems to be the determining factor for people whenever they make judgements or come to their own point of view.
I grew up in an all white enviroment and saw my share of ugly,cruel people.Yet I also saw my share of brilliant and very warm hearted kind people as well.My first exposure to blacks was in college and I got to know many very intelligent and goal oreinted people who treated me with openess and caring.They gave me an initial positive feeling about that ethnic group as a whole.
Later on,I encountered many of the ghetto underclass who were like KKK generated stereotypes.Those folks SCARED me.Just like the white trash who threatened and intimidated me as a child scared me.The irony is that the so called militant Afrocentric blacks who dominated the scene when I was in college are almost all very middle class and economically prosperous today.The youngsters I encounter in the high schools nowadays haven’t the slightest interest in their grandparent’s struggles.They will tell you straight up,”n****,I just want to get paid”
I liked the older generation better.


64 posted on 12/12/2007 2:49:35 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: Paleo Conservative

“The men who do not become Americans and nothing else are hyphenated Americans; and there ought to be no room for them in this country. The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic. He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else....” - Theodore Roosevelt


65 posted on 12/12/2007 3:17:00 PM PST by OB1kNOb (TBD.)
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To: montag813; Paleo Conservative
My Hispanic cab driver yesterday was talking about how Chinese people drive like sh*t “because they can’t see nothin’”.

We should be very very clear that this has nothing to do with the United States, it's the human condition.

Everywhere I've been overseas among different enthnicities, there is a blatant racial and ethnic bias against "the other". Nationalism would be down there at the fifth or tenth rung of this pervasive and universal phenomena.

There is a saying in SE Asia: "The Vietnamese grow the rice, the Khmer watch it grow, and the Thai eat it."

That's kind of an ethnic slur (and there's some truth to it), but there also are many racial ("racist") slurs among those groups as well.

I spent enough time there to see that there are clear racial distinctions among the various ethnicities, and the locals see those even more clearly than we do.

66 posted on 12/12/2007 3:45:09 PM PST by angkor ("There! half man, half bear, and half pig! Do you see it?!." Al Gore, South Park 11.12)
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To: Raymann

The last city neighborhood where we lived was like the United Nations: A representative of every group lived there. Most of the storeowners were Asian. One day, when I was standing at the bus stop, a young black woman walked up to me with her head bleeding. She asked me for the nearest medical clinic, and then she told me what happened: One of the storeowners accused her of stealing. He followed her outside to argue with her and hit her in the head. :-0

Truth be told, people probably did steal from him from time to time. But she wasn’t one of them.

Sometimes I felt bad for the storeowners. A couple of them were robbed at gunpoint. But there was one Asian man who ran a sandwich and beer shop. He had no respect for the neighborhood at all. He sold alcohol to people who would then stumble around urinating on our street, begging for money, etc. One night, his very loud burglar alarm set off, right outside our bedroom window. We called the police, but the owner refused to come to the neighborhood and shut it off in the middle of the night. So, it rang all night long. We got no sleep with the constant loud BRRRRRINNNNG all through our apartment. The next morning, when my husband stormed into his store to yell at him, the man pretended he couldn’t speak English.


67 posted on 12/12/2007 9:49:18 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Riverman94610

Well, it’s good to know I’m not the only misanthrope out there. I start out liking people, but they always disappoint me: Most of them seem nice at first, but eventually they show their true colors.

My experience was the opposite of yours. I grew up and always lived in mixed communities. However, my parents sent me to a Catholic school where every student had the same ethnic background as our family did. I learned an important lesson there: People can be cruel and untrustworthy, no matter what their ancestry is. I think I encountered more trouble from “my own kind” than any other group.


68 posted on 12/12/2007 10:07:14 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Amen,Tired.Your views reflect mine.I think thats a healthy outlook.


69 posted on 12/13/2007 11:14:40 AM PST by Riverman94610
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To: MrB; All

“Hey, is it racist of me to notice that Asians are more racist against blacks than most whites are?”

Those Black/Columbian illegals Joe Horn shot were stealing from Vietnamese families who didn’t trust the White bankers to keep their money. Vicious circle.


70 posted on 12/13/2007 1:17:50 PM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: MrB

Nope, not racist. I can attest that. I see a lot of prejudice in the Korean community. As a Korean, a first generation American, I see a lot of prejudice in the Korean community. Not all of Koreans of course. They seem to harbor prejudice towards Blacks, Hispanics, and even half Koreans. It is quite appalling for me personally and never ceases to amaze me.


71 posted on 12/13/2007 5:31:41 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese harbor a lot of animosity towards each other. China and Korean had a ambivilent relationship. Japan was often war with Korea. I have known people who are Black Africans and Caribbeans and they are some of the most proper talking people I have known. They are some of the nicest I have known. They work hard and they do shun Black Americans.


72 posted on 12/13/2007 5:35:17 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: MrB

Yes, I have heard and from my own experience they are more likely to be prejudiced towards Blacks.


73 posted on 12/13/2007 5:37:59 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: Paleo Conservative; PJ-Comix; Slings and Arrows; VeniVidiVici; pissant; Larry Lucido; ...

Seriously... who cares? Yes we are all one species, but that species is also human. As ugly as it is, opinions are made, and stereotypes aren’t stereotypes, they’re freaking FACT.

Sure, I’m thinking the same thing most of you are saying. That the only reason this poll shows mistrust is because “by gosh, it’s TRUE!”.

The black majority show up as ghetto, uneducated, lazy, and most of the time come off as criminals. Family values are usually seen as “do it or I’ll get mah belt, boy!”

The majority of Hispanics (aka Mexicans in the west and midwest, Puerto Ricans in the East Coast, and Cubans in Florida, yay stereotypes right?), are looked at as hard workers, job stealers, and gang bangers with, mostly, a huge family gathering.

The Asian majority are seen as Algebra and Calculus wizards and are most likely in accounting or in your local Chinese restaurant or laundromat, running it, and think that all of their customers, “THEY STEAL MY STORE!!! THEY ALWAYS STEAL FROM STORE!!! NO BUY GE’OUT!” Their family values are also very harsh, FOR HONOR!!!!

Middle easterns are... well... they run the Kwik-E-Marts and are all probably terrorists.

Yes, dirty dirty, nasty and disgusting. Let’s face it, you are lying if you never had one of these gone through your head and you nodded and said “yeah, I see, hear, or think that sometimes,” (minus the terrorist part, that’s just a racist joke, hurrr).

That’s what these races are pinned for because THEY KEEP DOING IT!!! Maybe if they’d FIX these things up and, y’know, not be like this any more, then maybe the “stereotypes” will disappear and then everyone will go, “Huh, but I thought they were supposed to do such and such. Oh well.”

That’s what Bill Cosby pretty much said in a nutshell not too long ago. And I agree with him.

There’s plenty of good examples that don’t match the stereotype and live really good lives as really good people on this forum alone (omg you’re a conservative does that mean you’re a [insert liberal stereotype here] etc.). If everyone would freakin’ try in life, we wouldn’t have TOO MUCH of this nonsense, and everyone would be making fun of the racists and singling their idiocies out.

Except for the KKK and the Nazis... they’re just a bunch of dumb sons o’ youknowhats.


74 posted on 12/13/2007 10:09:05 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

but they trust whites more than each other...

hmm...maybe the soft bigotry-no free will-race baiters were right after all


75 posted on 12/13/2007 10:11:35 PM PST by wardaddy (subservient well trained former shrew tamer for Thompson...but worried....very)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

One can hate an entire group, but like the individual.


76 posted on 12/13/2007 10:28:13 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: Madame Dufarge

My family is English, Irish, Welsh, Scottish, French, Dutch, German, Danish, Italian-Swiss, Austrian, Spanish, Cherokee, and something else but darn, I forgot.


77 posted on 01/08/2008 7:55:22 PM PST by SatinDoll
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