Bump for DH--in English
Posted on 12/09/2007 8:37:28 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
You are right, it is off topic.
UGH. Did Huckabee really just try to equate an American Express card with American citizenship?!
Oy.
Huckabee views the illegal immigration issue as a paperwork processing issue. He is not against it, but rather, he thinks we ought to bring them in here faster and more efficiently.
Huckabee is a panderer extraordinaire.
Six questions, six answers.
I wonder what the ratio is for the other candidates. Or was this debate actually the most fair in terms of how many questions candidates were asked?
I caught it...immediately!!!
The Hucka-Nanny lives on!
Go Hunter '08
Perhaps it is more of an attempt to appear conservative. He is already a centrist.
The Centrist Coalition is a group of moderate Democrats and Republicans seeking common ground and compromise on issues. ... The Centrist Coalition helps to bridge the two parties...
The name of the Senate Centrist Coalition is "Third Way," subtitled, "A Senate-Focused Progressive Advocacy Group."
The group also exerted influence in helping to push for enactment of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill
Coalition Members (107th Congress) -- included FRED THOMPSON
From your link:
McCloskey saw him [Fred] as a Celebrity counter-force to the Religious Right/Pro-Lifers that could win the GOP Nomination.
Same argument we are hearing today.
PING to Duncan Hunter fans. Go vote here.....http://polls.newsmax.com/gop2008/?PROMO_CODE=3A77-1
Hunter: After that, 12 million more people came in. If we give an amnesty to this next batch of 12 million people, you will have a third wave of people coming in expecting to catch the third amnesty. You know, this lady behind me represents a lot of things. One is welcoming immigrants to America. The other is the rule of law. We have to establish the rule of law, and
people who are here illegally have to go home.
Where are all the folks that said they would vote for the first person that said this?
YOU ARE WRONG. THEY CAN SPEAK ENGLISH JUST FINE WHEN NEEDED. THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING SO. ASSIMILATION IS SURRENDER TO THEM, AND THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF SURRENDERING.
I don't know where you live now or what exposure you have had to "hispanics". As a group, I have experienced their animosity over and over and over again: THEY TELL YOU IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT SOMEDAY YOU WILL SPEAK SPANISH, AND THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO SPEAK THE HATED ANGLO LANGUAGE.
Ask almost anyone on this forum who lives in the Southwest. We've all been exposed.
No. You're wrong.
It is a matter of cultural and national conquest to them, and they take that seriously. Unlike you.
Suzi...I'm from the border. With Mexico. I didn't come by my opinions by accident. They come from exposure to these guys. ASK ANYONE FROM HERE.
I believe your estimate of 6% Hispanics is low
Believe me, Pew doesn't underreport.
Strutting, exaggerting, bragging, thumping your chest in comical self importance are all part of the Big Man Caudillo act. Inflating the numbers is not beyond them. But in a generation, they will be right - it's going to be 20%, largely due to negligence on the part of this President and his three predecessors.
how do you propose they're going to do that?
Simple. By walking in and staging abominations like Spanish Presidential debates, and demanding that the laws against them taking over be abandoned (like birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens), special privileges that reward their ethnicity and language (afrirmative action for the Conquistadors?), and forcing us to subsidize them.
Many have been here for years, but still converse better in their native tongues than in English
I know many Germans and French who live in Germany and France who speak perfect English having only learned it in school. I met a woman the other evening who married a citizen 10 years ago and moved here from Wurzburg who now speaks unaccented American English. She sounds like she's from Redondo Beach. When in American history was anything like this necessary? Were the 1920 election debates held in Italian?
You know and understand nothing of what is happening here. It is a full scale invasion and takeover mounted by a foreign government - mainly the government of Mexico. They saw the weakness of the Baby Boom generation, and decided to exploit it.
They appear to be fabulously successful. Largely because people like yourself give them ground.
LOVE that last pic!
thanks for the ping.
Thanks, calcowgirl.
You’re welcome. (I hope the toothache is better!)
I say that politicians claiming to support the HLA are pandering because they can talk until they are blue in the face, but they won't get the Amendment passed, so they're not saving one single baby with all their talking. We've already seen that having both the White House and Congress in Republican hands didn't do anything to move that along. Why not look at other ways to solve the problem? What Fred has proposed is something that could be done within the next few years, as members of the Supreme court retire, or die, and need to be replaced. He has already said that he would appoint strict constructionists to the Court who do not believe that is in the Court's purview to legislate from the bench. This attitude would go beyond unlimited abortion to homosexual 'marriage' and other societal changes that liberals love to force on the populace through Court mandates, because they know that those things would likely never pass if the voters got the chance to weigh in on them.
If Roe v Wade is overturned, the major stumbling block to states in their efforts to severely restrict abortion will have been removed. This would result in thousands of babies being saved each year because women would no longer have that 'back up birth control', and would likely change their behavior because of it. It would also mean that every voter would have the chance to made a difference in his or her own state regarding abortion, and not feel like the issue is completely out of their hands. Yes, there will be some states that allow the practice, but even then, you will see that voters will be loathe to allow it for more than the hard cases like REPORTED rape or incest, or in the case of a direct threat to the LIFE of the mother.
“YOU ARE WRONG. THEY CAN SPEAK ENGLISH JUST FINE WHEN NEEDED. THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING SO. ASSIMILATION IS SURRENDER TO THEM, AND THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF SURRENDERING.....It is a matter of cultural and national conquest to them, and they take that seriously”
You’ve summarized this well, Regulator. The ‘we are the world’ crowd simply won’t admit that all cultures are NOT the same. Even Calderone admits the difference.
Mexico president says ‘culture of machismo’ still strong
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/26/america/LA-GEN-Mexico-Machismo.php
Let me give you a history story about ‘assimiliaton’. Early in the 1800’s the Cherokee realized if they were to survive they had to ‘assimilate’ to the White power structure. They developed their own written language and in a matter of a few months virtually all of them learned to read and write it. At the same time they hired missionaries and teachers, sent their children to Dartmouth and where ever they could to learn and ‘assimilate’.
The point? If those ignorant ‘savages’ could do it 200 years ago with NO help from the government, I have no sympathy for the whiners of today.
Must be a perception thing. I don't see American voters falling over backwards to accommodate Mexico in any takeover bid. You seem to be fixated on Mexicans, and maybe your area of the country has a problem, but I don't see many illegal MEXICAN immigrants. The illegals in my area of the country are more likely from the former Soviet states, or Ireland.
Yes, Hispanic radicals made a lot of noise last year in their marches, and they got exactly NOWHERE because of it. These were the Reconquista people who I lump in the same category as the Black Power folks from the 1970's. They made a lot of noise, but their radicalism did them in. Black people made their way in society, and Spanish speaking immigrants will do the same thing, as they work their way up the economic ladder, no thanks to the blowhards in their midst.
And you can yell all you want, but not all Spanish speaking immigrants are unwilling to assimilate. Sure, they like the cultural trappings from their home country, so do the Italians and Irish who have big celebrations and parades and keep their cultures alive in their households. I'm not threatened by St. Patrick's Day parades or the Feast of San Gennaro, and Cinco de Mayo doesn't scare me either.
It would be nice if they became fully American and fluent in English. That was MY point, not what the national origin or ethnicity of a person is. We are increasingly becoming a bi-lingual nation, with parallel "cultures." I don't think that is good for America.
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