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Four People Shot Outside Colorado Springs New Life Church
Fox News ^ | 09 DEC 07 | Fox News

Posted on 12/09/2007 12:49:26 PM PST by aomagrat

Edited on 12/09/2007 12:59:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

[I waited 45 seconds and actually posted something substantial--Ed.]

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — At least four people were shot outside of a Colorado Springs church on Sunday, but it was not immediately known whether the shootings were related to an earlier shooting about 70 miles away, authorities said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Colorado
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To: GOP_Proud

CERTAINLY folks can FEEL it caps are harder to read as I can that they are easier.

But when I can read caps further away and faster—that convinces me they are easier.

I’ll try and find some studies on it. at some point—after grades are in.


1,161 posted on 12/09/2007 8:41:06 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: yorkie
Here is everything I have been able to glean from various posts and articles.

1st shooting...12:30 a.m. missionary school, Arvada. 20-ish man in black spent several minutes speaking with people inside the dorm. Peter Warren, director of Youth With a Mission Denver, said the man asked whether he could spend the night. When told he couldn't stay, the man opened fire, then left on foot. 2 young people dead. 2 injured.

2nd shooting: Shortly after 1pm. 70 miles south At New Life megachurch in Co. Springs. Perp plants bombs around...said seen throwing objects out of car up against buildings. He gets out and starts shooting in parking lot. Female volunteer security guard shoots and kills him. But he has already killed one, and seriously wounded 4 others. He fits vague description of perp in Avada. Cops are comparing notes.

Police in Arvada said they had "reason to believe" the shootings at New Life were connected with shootings at a missionary training center there. The same missionary training program has a small office at the New Life Church's World Prayer Center.

According to eye witnesses, the shooter was described as skinny, in his 20s, about 6 feet tall and dressed in black. His pockets were bulging with what looked like shotgun shells and the gunman looked to be wearing something like bullet-proof vest and a black trench coat.

While the assailant's identity has not yet been confirmed, police said they are already seeking search warrants for his vehicle and home for evidence that might explain the attack. So far authorities do not know of any connection he had to the church

Police, firefighters and federal agents were combing the grounds hours after the incident, finding "suspicious" devices. Late Sunday, the church is under lockdown, and police are using a robot to determine whether the man had a bomb strapped to his body.

Three people were taken to Penrose Community Hospital in Colorado Springs, where they were listed in critical, fair and good condition

As authorities searched for answers to two crimes that defied explanation, perhaps nothing illustrated just how bizarre the day was than a plea issued by Arvada Police Chief Don Wick.

All faith-based communities, he said, should be on the lookout for trouble.

1,162 posted on 12/09/2007 8:41:15 PM PST by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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To: Velveeta

“All faith-based communities, he said, should be on the lookout for trouble.”

OPINION:

Absolutely, Velveeta.

Every church should be able to protect their congregation to the best of their ability — no exceptions, in my opinion.

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http://www.christianemergencynetwork.com/

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http://truthusa.com/a/index.php?board=2.0


1,163 posted on 12/09/2007 8:41:22 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Quix

From your info. earlier, it sounded like it was more their impression rather than anything they were actually officially told...or did a policeman tell them they thought the two shootings were related?

(Of course, it’s understandable to think they would be, in any event, occurring close in proximity and on the same day.)


1,164 posted on 12/09/2007 8:41:37 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
"...and He has created us all sinners."

Do you really believe this or is this sarcasm?

1,165 posted on 12/09/2007 8:42:03 PM PST by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: nicmarlo
LOL! I totally relate! I had one professor, political science of all things, who would literally get red in the face whenever I would raise my hand.

The absolute worst was seminary though! Talk about intolerance! That place defined liberal looniness!

1,166 posted on 12/09/2007 8:42:29 PM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile!)
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To: NautiNurse

If God wanted us to use all caps, why do we have lower case letters?

= =

LOL.

I wasn’t aware that Hebrew HAD lower case letters.


1,167 posted on 12/09/2007 8:42:41 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: yorkie
FOUR people killed in Colorado Springs church?

No! Last I heard, two including perp.

1,168 posted on 12/09/2007 8:42:56 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: NautiNurse

Besides, I’m sure a cast of thousands hereon would be glad to offer a long list of OTHER “reasons” that I’m to be considered whacky.


1,169 posted on 12/09/2007 8:43:47 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: yorkie

Very sad; I believe I read earlier that one died at the hospital....


1,170 posted on 12/09/2007 8:43:50 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: GoLightly

I don’t recognize the man, but still the name sounds so familiar... Still praying for all involved...


1,171 posted on 12/09/2007 8:43:59 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

It sounds like he started out in the parking lot...one eyewitness said he had a BIG BLCK gun, and she was pralyzed for a moment with fear, until her bf grabbed her and pushed her in the car. The pastor was looking out his upstairs office window and saw what took place in the parking area .

Then, witnesses saw the perp shooting in the foyer area, that’s where the guard shot him down, and his body was left there because they thought he might be booby-trapped!

At this point, he may still be there. They could be waiting for BATF anf FBI to fonish up.

It must have been chaotic. Church just getting out; hundreds of people milling about inside and out. I wonder how long they kept the people there until they felt it was safe enough for them to go to their cars and go home.

Well, we will be reading about it for days.

I pray it is not a larger conspiracy. I have a daughter married to a Baptist minister down south, and another who is a missionary in Africa!

I pray that God will protect and defend his people everywhere, and give strength and comfort to the injured and the bereaved, and watch over and heal the little children who may have witnessed this tragedy.


1,172 posted on 12/09/2007 8:44:33 PM PST by Palladin ("By their shorts ye shall know them.")
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To: yorkie

4 SHOT, not 4 dead. Unless there’s something new in the last 20 mnutes. There’s one dead, 3-4 hospitalized, plus the dead perp.


1,173 posted on 12/09/2007 8:44:50 PM PST by cookcounty (Ja-pan Jack Murtha, The ex-Marine who thinks Okinawa is on his Middle East map.)
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To: Quix

Are we on topic(((Hugs)))


1,174 posted on 12/09/2007 8:45:42 PM PST by fatima
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To: Palladin

Oh whee.

I don’t trust either group any more.

Necessary, I suppose.


1,175 posted on 12/09/2007 8:45:43 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

“Again . . . the assault is IMAGINED in the eye of the beholder.”

No, people mentally say the words out loud and all CAPS almost always make people SLOW DOWN and SHOUT mentally. IT IS REAL SO STOP IT NOW!!!


1,176 posted on 12/09/2007 8:46:10 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: LibertyRocks

Name sounded familiar to me too & I know I couldn’t possibly know him. Must be one of those kind of names.


1,177 posted on 12/09/2007 8:46:13 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: CindyDawg

Likely.

But with so many forces in society setting up such perspectives and values on reality . . . home grown is far too easily likely and common

imho.


1,178 posted on 12/09/2007 8:46:21 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: yorkie

Heartbearking yorkie,many young people.


1,179 posted on 12/09/2007 8:47:40 PM PST by fatima
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To: I'm ALL Right!

Thank you, I’m. So there is one dead in Colorado Springs? So, there is one dead the shooter dead? What a deranged soul that young man had.


1,180 posted on 12/09/2007 8:48:09 PM PST by yorkie ( For God so loved the world........................ that He didn't send a committee.)
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