Posted on 12/08/2007 6:58:18 AM PST by marktwain
It appears that we have positive identification of the rifle used in the Omaha Mall shooting. The pictures from Fox 42: Omaha show an ordinary SKS rifle with a fixed 10 round magazine. The same rifle that millions of people in the United States own for hunting and plinking. It is an acceptable deer rifle for most of the country.
There have been many reports of "assault rifle" used in the MSM, and reports of 30 round magazines. It appears that all of these reports are false, probably intended to stir up anti-gun sentiment before the election.
Mines a Norinco(China)but your are correct in that until you are familiar with the weapon with the fixed mag removed and replaced with a detachable one it can be akward to switch mags. Whats your take on the mall photo? Thats an AK sight post but I cannot for the life of me see the taped mags.
It looks like an AK in the mall surveillance photo. I can see the taped mags in the blown up pic some one posted earlier.
Why is the media so damned irresponsible in their reporting?
Its pretty simple. Most modern guns are marked.
If I had this weapon in front of me I could identify it in about a minute
Disregard verity.
Don't know, wouldn't surprise me. They have been known to lay out a table full of airsoft guns, with one or two real guns, usually .22s, so they can make a big deal out of the "arsenal" they've "taken off the street".
“Why is the media so damned irresponsible in their reporting?”
They are irresponsible in our eyes but their oversight serves a purpose. Why not let the sheep think the mall shooter used an SKS. Makes it a lot easier down the road to demonize that weapon and add it to the “evil” list. Rest assured the ATF is digging this little mistake too.
Thank God we don’t have this weapon in front of us then we would spend another 4 hours discussing the manufacturing plant, output that year and year of import.
Merry Christmas
It did occur to me, while I was in the shower after going offline, that that SKS photo is from an early article, when the police chief was saying “SKS”, so it may indeed be a stock photo of some sort, and is not being represented as the *actual*, by serial number, weapon used in the shooting. But they sure don’t make that clear, one way or the other, do they?
I had thought of that. currently the SKS is ubiquitous and cheap, even C&R eligible
No they dont and its one minute investigation if you have the weapon
Yea, but just a little one, a Jeep Cherokee. He could have driven in an Expedition, A Durango, or a Suburban, you know "a Heavy Urban Assault Vehicle (HUAV)"
You know the commie bastages will try to spin it so it does
The headline, the FR one says that, the original article, and original headline do not. The article, and accompanying picture caption just say that the shooter was found with an SKS.
I very much doubt that it was, or is. An "assault rifle" that is. Maybe, probably even, it would have been an "assault weapon", under the now expired law of that name. "Assault weapon" is a term made up, by gun grabbers, for guns the grabbers wish to ban. The precise definition changes from state to state, and even day to day. In Nebraska, I don't think there is any such thing, at least the NRA-ILA summary of Nebraska gun laws doesn't mention any, unlike the ones for California and Massachusetts, which do.
Actually it's 5.45X39 verses the 5.56X41 of the ".223" Still a .22, but not the same cartridge as that used by the M-16, M-249, and others. There are of course semi-auto AK clones chambered for the .223/5.56x41 cartridge, but they aren't AK-74s.
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"A friend of Hawkins told KETV that Hawkins had been on antidepressants, staying with friends and bouncing from job to job."
Showers some times help me also ... the article was orginally written/posted sometime after 9pm the night of the shootings. The police did not even know what they had at that time ... let alone releasing phots of the weapon. I have yet to see a photo of the AK-47 that was used.
Which is pretty sad. My wife's nephew, who lives in Nebraska, but is currently attending college in ND, could have told them at a glance, when he was 9 or 10 years old. That's when he used an SKS to take an old wild sow. He still has the mounted head on the wall of his bedroom, 11 or 12 years later. :). They even used the bayonet to finish her off, because she'd crawled up onto a hard surface road, and they were worried about ricochets.
Who says "assault weapons" can't be used for hunting? :)
Here's the rifle.
You may question the veracity of the information; let me assure you that this is the correct weapon identification.
At the time of the press conference these items were still in place at the crime scene, and pressure from the national media allowed inaccurate information to be given to the media.
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