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Military's Pandora's Box: HAARP, Advances In Tesla Technology
http://www.avalonhealthinfo.com/articles/46/1/The-Military039s-Pandora039s-Box/Page1.html ^ | Dr. Nick Begich and Jeane Manning

Posted on 12/04/2007 10:26:56 AM PST by Fennie

This article was prepared to provide a summary of the contents of a book written in 1995 which describes an entirely new class of weapons. The weapons and their effects are described in the following pages. The United States Navy and Air force have joined with the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, to build a prototype for a ground based "Star Wars" weapon system located in the remote bush country of Alaska. Unlike the protests of the 1960s the objections to HAARP have been registered using the tools of the 1990s. This article will will only give the highlights...


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KEYWORDS: haarp; iran; iraq; israel; military; tesla
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To: CutePuppy

Thanks CutePuppy, but I’ve read everything (including that) available on HAARP. As I said, I’m “familiar” with the subject. Also, I say the “fears” are unfounded - on any NORMAL science.

I have multiple transmitters and antennas at my home, and can transmit up to nearly 2 megawatts of energy. :) I’ve got test gear, and of course a license to do this. So, I suppose it’s a matter of understanding on the part of those who simply do not understand radio theory.


21 posted on 12/04/2007 11:45:02 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

“You brown shirted, jack-booted, government plant SOB!”


22 posted on 12/04/2007 11:49:32 AM PST by xone
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To: monday
“Ah yes another pot smoking rights thread.”

huh? You seem lost... Are you sure you are on the right thread?


I think you took him literally. I think he was talking more about the people who wrote the article, than about what the article was about. LOL
23 posted on 12/04/2007 11:50:06 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: xone

LOL!!!!

I feel more at home now than ever :)


24 posted on 12/04/2007 11:50:52 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

nearly 2 megawatts of energy = 2 KILOwatts.

Damn, told you I was tired. I moved the decimal place too many places :(

Amateur Radio operators in certain license classes can transmit almost 2,000 watts. Duh, sorry, made a mistake.


25 posted on 12/04/2007 11:52:54 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Amateur Radio operators in certain license classes can transmit almost 2,000 watts. Duh, sorry, made a mistake.

Actually it is exactly 1500 watts, which I guess could be called "almost" 2000 watts. KI6JH here, hamming for lots of years and hope to make many more.

26 posted on 12/04/2007 12:26:57 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

Yeah, that’s correct. I knew that. I wasn’t trying to be exact on everything :)

Ok, let’s correct that... “1.5 kilowatts”

de N0NJY


27 posted on 12/04/2007 12:36:24 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
I've heard the weather theory (Karl Rove's hurricane machine, no doubt) on Coast to Coast and the one about the resonance is supposed to make people do whatever it is the gov't wants them to do. What I don't know is what HAARP is really designed to do or to test. I know it is supposed to heat the ionosphere, or at least that's what I gathered, but I couldn't figure out what the purpose of doing that is.

Thanks for your help. I'm just curious and have no scientific training beyond Zoology 101.

28 posted on 12/04/2007 12:41:06 PM PST by penowa
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Sure does help a lot. Thank you.

Apparently Art Bell (who should know better since he's into radio) seems to have HAARP and the HARP project confused. I heard parts of a re-run of some broadcast he did in the '90's not long ago, and he seemed to not only have the conspiracy theories interwoven with the science, but also had both HARP and HAARP confused and conbined.

I read your 2nd post first and didn't realize you'd already answered my question. I do appreciate it.

29 posted on 12/04/2007 12:53:37 PM PST by penowa
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To: penowa
I have never heard of it except for some looney talk on Coast to Coast when I've had insomnia - and I seriously doubt the gov't is trying to fry my brain

Well where do you think the insomnia came from? Huuuuum? It was part of the Government plan to make you listen to Coast to Coast which is scientifically proven to fry brains. < / s >

30 posted on 12/04/2007 12:58:25 PM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Ditto; penowa

Hahahaha. I listen to, on occasion to Art Bell and have emailed with him before, as well as Noory. I have worked extensively with “The Anomalies network” in the past and am considered “too skeptical” for the “Anomalies Community”... which says something I think.

While I can sit here and say I don’t believe everything I hear (either in the news papers or the internet) I am fascinated by UFO reports, and Big Foot.... On the other hand, I find it very difficult to believe some of the nonsense that people out out as ‘fact’ when it comes to things like radio theory and physics.

For Penowa, mostly...

The reason behind ‘heating’ the ionosphere is to change it’s refractive characteristics.

I think the reasoning behind this is somewhat sound, but I’m not sure of the outcome.

During the daylight, the atmosphere (and also the ionosphere) is bombarded by solar radiation in several forms, but primarily heat energy.

The various layers in the ionosphere change during the daylight and nightime hours, and cause different frequencies to refract at different times of the day. The ‘layers’ change altitude as well.

What I believe they are likely doing with HAARP is to heat the ionosphere to drastically change the refractive layers during different times of the day to send radio signals, in particular say, radar signals over the horizon.

Radio waves, especially higher frequency signals are almost entirely “line of sight” meaning if you can see it, you can hear it. Lower frequencies in the “HF” range, especially lower frequencies can travel in “ground waves” and follow the curve of the earth, but those are generally VLF and LF (really below the HF bands).

So, my ‘educated guess’ is that they heat the atmosphere, technically the ionosphere to change which frequencies can be more easily refracted (bent) around the curve of the earth.

If they used this device in conjunction with a radar system (which I believe they do) then they could conceivably “see’ missiles launched in, say Russia....

(Hmmm HAARP is located where again? :) Look that up for yourself and ask yourself that question!)


31 posted on 12/04/2007 1:09:12 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
There is also a theory that certain frequencies, in particular something around “8 hertz” (or cycles per second) is the frequency at which the human body, the human brain, and most other bio-systems on the planet happen to be resonant.

That's a lot lower than I expected though I admit I never really gave it much thought before now. Interesting.

32 posted on 12/04/2007 1:09:32 PM PST by CougarGA7 (I'm supporting a Conservative not a RINO http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

I heard HAARP is really made to shoot down UFOs before they can deliver the full Big Foot invasion force. ;~))


33 posted on 12/04/2007 1:26:40 PM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: CougarGA7

Well, that’s a THEORY, I didn’t say it was actually that frequency. However, as I understand it the EARTH itself is absolutely resonant at about 8 Hertz. Actually, it’s a bit lower, like 7.6 or 7.8 hertz, and this is called the Schumann Resonance. It was a mathematically predicted resonance based on the ionosphere and the earth’s surface.

As a child playing with a shortwave radio, I used to hear these high-pitched whistling sounds that usually started high with a warbling sound, that reduced in tone for a few seconds. Later, I learned they were called “Whistlers” (how APPROPRIATE!) and that they are most LIKELY caused by a lightning strike hitting with a certain amount of energy and broadcasting the massive RF energy at just the right frequency to cause a resonance in the Earth’s ionospheric system.

I’m not 100% sure that’s always what caused them but on occasion I still hear those sounds. I’m sure that lightning, and this resonance are related some why, but my memory isn’t clear on that right now. Perhaps I’ll look it up later....

I will say this, that the “resonance” of the human body is not a definite fact, and it’s obviously somewhat debatable based on various sizes of humans :) but there seems to be some evidence that humans are affected by very low frequencies like that, and there’s a lot of evidence that animals can “detect” things like Earthquakes before they occur.

I surmise this would be due to them perhaps being sensitive to vibrations around them, whereas humans perhaps aren’t as sensitive for some reason. It’s again, only a theory and not mine.

But, for HAARP to have some effect on people, I’d think it must necessarily be “tuned’ to a brain frequency of some kind, be it alpha or theta waves... or whatever.

As I understand things, to date, human brainwave frequencies are generally below 30 Hertz. HAARP operates in the HF range.

That brings me to one more thing. Human HEARING is roughly from 20 Hz to 20kilohertz, depending on how well you can hear.... So, radio waves which are ELECTROMAGNETIC waves aren’t heard by humans anyway. SOUND waves are air vibration, and radio waves are a vibration of electical signals passing through the... umm ether (could be air, vacuum, water or whatever, so I used that term).

None of us can HEAR 8 hertz. Most of us might be able to FEEL it though as a vibration, if it were strong enough.


34 posted on 12/04/2007 1:28:57 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Ditto

Oh, I think I heard that one too. :) Just forgot it on the list. LOL


35 posted on 12/04/2007 1:29:32 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

the difinitive book was ANGELS DON’T PLAY THIS HAARP
and piece by piece proven wrong


36 posted on 12/04/2007 1:31:43 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: advertising guy

You’re saying the book “Angels don’t play this HAARP” was proven wrong? Or the stuff I’m saying has been proven wrong?


37 posted on 12/04/2007 1:33:45 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

it’s an honor reading your posts....I look for and forward to reading them


38 posted on 12/04/2007 1:34:31 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: advertising guy

Thank you. I think. :) I’m not exactly sure why it would be an honor, but certainly I appreciate the compliment.


39 posted on 12/04/2007 1:36:24 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

you are correct, the book did like you said.....some science but a flawed theory to fit an agenda


40 posted on 12/04/2007 1:37:51 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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