Posted on 12/02/2007 5:24:31 AM PST by Andy'smom
ROCHESTER, N.H. - In the hours before he allegedly took five people hostage at Hillary Clinton's campaign office Friday, Leeland Eisenberg sat drinking rum and cokes with his stepson in his trailer.
He drank heavily, and in a fog of frustration and delusion, said he could no longer afford his medication for bipolar disorder, his stepson, Benjamin Warren, said by phone last night. Unemployed, Eisenberg had no money to see a doctor; a local hospital turned him away when he went for help, Warren said.
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My bro sounds much better when he's off the meds.
What always got me was that IIRC, Linda Tripp was the last person to see him alive.
You are correct. I feel sorry for him, and anyone who has persistent mental illness. The brain is an organ just like the heart, lungs, kidneys and skin. It's reasonable to think that the brain can be injured, and break down, too.
If you had a family member or friend who is bi-polar you wouldn't hold this chilling attitude.
Don't judge all these unfortunate souls and their equally unfortunate families by this one person.
If you had to live with or care for a bi-polar sufferer for one year, you would have your eyes opened wider than a Hillary stare.
Leni
Makes perfect sense to me in any state of mind.
Agree. It may not show up on a CAT scan but it is real and it can be devastating.
I had a NCO that I worked closely with for almost four years...returned back to the base three years ago...and had a stroke two years ago...and is now bi-polar. The air force gave him a medical discharge and he gets help...but he really isn’t capable of trusting 100 percent. I had lunch with him four months ago...and felt pretty sorry for him...but based on things he’s done in the past twelve months....you can’t judge him “safe”. His wife is helping him but I doubt she lasts more than three or four years.
I can understand this guy in New Hampshire....but there isn’t much that Hillary or state-mandated healthcare (other than paying for the meds) can do for this guy...if he won’t take his meds.
Too many stop taking their meds because, at the time, they think they don't need them any longer. Treating this type mental illness is complicated, because of the vicious cycles these people encounter. They should be monitored all the time, as well as attend groups, or charitable organizations that can help them cope and be with others who have the same or similar illness.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=546834&fromPageCatId=5431
He couldn’t afford $4? There is quite a long list of medicines for mental health provided by Wal Mart for $4 for a 1 month supply. His is probably on the list.
A trillion now dead primitive people believed in all sorts of powerful forces. People still believe in the talking cures of Freud. Few people belove in aura therapy.
People believe all sorts of things. Parents believe their dolt kid is a genius. Others that their smart kid is a dolt.
I don’t.
You are wrong on this one. Bi-polar is a major illness, and not difficult to diagnose at all. (in severe cases) It almost always turns out bad. If you ever spent any time with someone bi-polar you would not doubt the illness.
I have experience with bi-polar relatives and through my work. And you say they don’t do anything stupid like step in front of a bus etc., but they do, all the time. Suicide, is a very common outcome of this problem. They crash planes, jump in front of subways, buses or oncoming traffic. They jump off of buildings, they drink Drano, they breath exhaust from the tail pipes of cars. I have seen it all.
Worst part about it is that the treatments are not very good, and most do not like to take their meds. They make up excuses not to, and then they go on a binge. This man sounds textbook to me. Please do some research on this problem. It is no like so many other fabricated diseases. It is for real.
Where did he get the money for the alcohol??????????
Leni
Been there,
done that,
I DO understand,
(Right down to praying I’d come home to a standing house and live pets).
and yes, there is nothing scarier that an OOC Bipolar.
He was listed as a paranoid schizophrenic. One of the attributes of schizophrenia is stopping medication. Often the patient feels that the pills make them worse and the doctors are in on it. They are paranoid.
Over and over in the news you'll see references to crimes committed by schizophrenics who "stopped taking their meds". It is really common.
You are right on! Even after researching mental illness, dealing with it daily, as part of my job, is an eye opener. People don't want to be this way, but they have no control over this illness. Unless the meds work, they are completely dependent on others, which they don't normally have. These people need counseling, along with their meds. I work in a non profit organization, affiliated with a church. We provide counseling, psychiatric treatment, groups, meals, and a place for the mentally ill to congregate and/or just hang out during the day. No one is turned away for lack of funds. Nearly all cities have places like this, but, these people need someone to guide them to us.
My wife's sister is. And I/we do feel very sorry. What we have run up against for 30 years is that she not only refuses to deal with it in *any* sort of constructive manner; worse, she uses it as an excuse for everything. Nothing is ever her responsibility, everyone in the family is here for her benefit.
It is very frustrating when, on one hand, she admits she has problems (but refuses to call it bi-polar) and then will list all of the reasons she can't do anything about it. No matter what any of us suggest, she always tells us she can't do it.
I think her mental problems are much broader than the bi-polar thing. Of course, no emotional or mental problem exists in a vacuum.
You are probably right that she has broader problems. And, narcissistic behavior is normal for them. They know they are screwed up, and are frustrated that "no one understands". To an extent, she is correct, but most of us in the business do understand that they have little control over their behavior. Behavior is a symptom of their illness, as is the way they think. Now, if only we could find out how to fix that...
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