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IS THE NEW YORK TIMES READY TO THROW HILLARY UNDER THE BUS?
1 December 2007 | vanity

Posted on 12/01/2007 7:52:20 PM PST by shrinkermd

Both Frank Rich and Maureen Dowd have columns today.

Rich has little to say about the Iraq War. He stresses Obama opposed it and Hillary did not. Presumably, this is enough for Frank Rich and Pinch to switch sides.

Here is a quote from Rich:

”…But much like the Clinton campaign itself, the Republicans have fallen into a trap by continuing to cling to the Hillary-is-inevitable trope. They have not allowed themselves to think the unthinkable — that they might need a Plan B to go up against a candidate who is not she. It’s far from clear that they would remotely know how to construct a Plan B to counter Mr. Obama. The repeated attempts to fan “rumors” that he is a madrassa-indoctrinated Muslim — whether on Fox News or in The Washington Post, where they resurfaced scurrilously on the front page on Thursday — are too demonstrably false to survive endless reruns even in the Swift-boating era…”

Rich’s article is Who’s Afraid of Barack Obama?

Maureen has a softer and more balanced approach but here is a choice quote of hers:

…Except for panicked Clintonistas, everyone seems eager to see if the young pol can live up to his potential. Responding to his more combative style, the press has relaunched him, giving him a second chance to shine, on this week’s cover of Time, in the pages of The New Yorker, in the up arrow of Newsweek, which now declares him “poised to be the comeback kid,” and at The Times, where young female assistants lined the halls on Wednesday to watch him glide into a second meeting with editorial board writers and editors…

Maureen’s article is O Brother, Where Art Thou?

This is a dramatic change on the part of the NYT. Even if it is brief, they seem to be acquiescing to the idea the Iraq War is going well and progress is being made. Seemingly, now they and others in the dominant media see it is time to think of someone other than Hillary..

For us it makes little difference who their candidate is. What is more and more important is new and novel leadership from our candidates with an ever increasing stress on what can be done not what has been done.

It is also time for our presidential candidates to cease the ad hominems and cheap shots at their opponents. Further, many and perhaps most voters in 2008 will have been born after 1980. This means the Cold War, Viet Nam and JFK are historical not personal remembrances. What is more and more important is we need new and novel leadership from our candidates. The election is about the future--what can be done not outweighs what has been done . This group of younger voters needs and deserves a positive, forward looking approach. Failure to grasp this will result in our failure.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; dowd; hillary; negatives; nyt; obama; rich
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To: shrinkermd

...........This group of younger voters needs and deserves a positive, forward looking approach. Failure to grasp this will result in our failure.................

Our Failure???

Who are you speaking of, the rats in the article, or the rest of us????


41 posted on 12/01/2007 8:28:26 PM PST by aShepard
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To: shrinkermd

Hillary is driving the bus. Barack takes his designated seat in the back with the remainder of the children. November 2008 they all become test-crash demmis. Enjoy the ride.


42 posted on 12/01/2007 8:30:06 PM PST by PGalt
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To: shrinkermd

It’s mildly encouraging. Think of it. Younger voters aren’t lathered up about the old hag with her ‘90’s baggage and her high school principal demeanor. Older voters...remember the Clinton years and would rather not dig them up again.
Obama the nominee? I can live with that! ;)


43 posted on 12/01/2007 8:32:34 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( "Do well, but remember to do good.")
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To: shrinkermd
I just have a hard time believing that the corrupt clinton political mafia would allow any choice other than the Hildabeast.

They will do/say/buy anyone and anything to insure that the Beast is the Dems candidate.

Hell hath no fury like a Beast that is mortally wounded.

44 posted on 12/01/2007 8:40:15 PM PST by Carbonado
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
many and perhaps most voters in 2008 will have been born after 1980.

That would make most 2008 voters, ummmmm, age 28 or younger. Most? No. Many? Maybe 10%. Is Maureen drinking waaaaaay too heavily again?


45 posted on 12/01/2007 8:42:35 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Republican field is really weak. The odds are currently running 60% a Democrat is going to be President. If you can’t have who you want do you prefer Hillary or Barack Obama? Hillary has the traits of a socialist dictator. Obama graduated from Columbia and earned a law degree from Harvard. His dad was a Harvard educated economist and was from Kenya, not from American welfare stock. Obama is as much Irish as he is African. Yes he’s an empty suit but my opinion of Bush at this point isn’t much higher. I’m not sick and afraid of him as I am the Clintons.


46 posted on 12/01/2007 8:46:22 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: shrinkermd
I kinda wish Hillary does get the nomination.

I figure that she will be the biggest turn out incentive for Republicans that we could hope for, and would lead to our regaining control of the Congress, as well as winning the White House.

Obama and Edwards are smoother -- they won't ignite the conservative base like Hillary will.

On the other hand, it's a risk having Hillary on the ticket. She is a more dangerous Marxist than those other empty suits and ambulance chasers. If there were any chance of the 'Rats winning, then I'd rather have a stupid 'Rat win than one with a long history of abusing the office and acquiring a big team of sycophants.

My fear now from those post is that the powers behind the leftist throne have figured that Hillary is a loser who will cost them more than a non-entity would, and are dumping her.

47 posted on 12/01/2007 8:50:26 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: Reeses
Better an empty suit Marxist than one with evil habits of long standing.

Better Obama than Hillary.

48 posted on 12/01/2007 8:52:50 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: Maelstorm

“. . .their social and fiscal policies which are like Marx dressed up in a tuttu.”

I once heard someone describe Michael Dukakis’ domestic economic platform as “boutique central planning.”


49 posted on 12/01/2007 8:53:30 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: shrinkermd

THROW HILLARY UNDER THE BUS


Can this dream become reality?


50 posted on 12/01/2007 8:53:32 PM PST by eleni121 (wrotngly)
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To: Carbonado
That mafia enjoys power only so long as the powers behind the throne let them have power.

And that's only so long as the Clintons are likely to be winners.

51 posted on 12/01/2007 8:54:52 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (The Greens and Reds steal in fear of freedom and capitalism; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: shrinkermd

It will be Obama vs Huckabee or Thompson


52 posted on 12/01/2007 8:55:55 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: goldstategop

Hillary’s real strength is single moms....read that somewhere...


53 posted on 12/01/2007 8:57:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: shield
Yup, they think these THREE are the cat's meow.....
54 posted on 12/01/2007 8:59:30 PM PST by tioga (Dear Santa..........I can explain....)
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To: tioga

LOL... ;o)


55 posted on 12/01/2007 9:04:24 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: SatinDoll
Why the photo of Katherine Zeta Jones?

Doncha know the cardinal rule?

Whenever Dowdy is mentioned, there must be a photo of Zeta-Jones, the lovely lady Michael Douglas dumped the shrill Dowd for -

56 posted on 12/01/2007 9:05:07 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: shrinkermd
From the Drudge Report:

Clinton Booed at Heartland Forum

**********************EXCERPT*********************

December 01, 2007 6:04 PM

ABC News' Eloise Harper reports: A day after dealing with a hostage crisis, Sen. Hillary Clinton faced a tough crowd in Iowa. Clinton did not receive the warmest of welcomes at the Heartland Form in Des Moines, IA, and although the hostage scare was mentioned, the announcer brushed it off quickly in order to get to questions. Clinton, who was forced to call in to speak to the crowd of thousands because of weather difficulties, took questions on topics from healthcare to illegal immigration.

57 posted on 12/01/2007 9:07:52 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: SatinDoll
Oh...I’m so sorry you seem to be drunk.

(You’re not making any sense, mister.)

Perfect sense - you don't know the standing FR rule about Dowd/Douglas/Zeta-Jones????

58 posted on 12/01/2007 9:09:17 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Carbonado
I just have a hard time believing that the corrupt clinton political mafia would allow any choice other than the Hildabeast.

It's the Socialist way. They turn on one another, like rats, if they smell blood.

I also wonder if the media isn't fed up with being threatened and controlled by the clintonista mafiosa - and they see a way out from under their heel -

59 posted on 12/01/2007 9:14:12 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I sure as hell couldn’t live with Obama as president...


60 posted on 12/01/2007 9:17:54 PM PST by damondonion
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