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Lottery winner wasn't supposed to gamble (convicted bank robber on probation)
Yahoo News/AP ^ | Nov 28, 2007

Posted on 11/29/2007 7:08:30 AM PST by nuconvert

Lottery winner wasn't supposed to gamble

By MARK PRATT, Associated Press Writer

Nov 28, 2007

BOSTON - The winner of a $1 million lottery scratch ticket may not be so lucky after all: He's a convicted bank robber who isn't supposed to gamble. Timothy Elliott faces a Dec. 7 court hearing over whether he violated his probation when he bought the $10 ticket for the $800 Million Spectacular game at a supermarket in Hyannis.

Elliott was placed on five years' probation after pleading guilty in October 2006 to unarmed robbery for a January 2006 heist at a bank on Cape Cod. Under terms of his probation, he "may not gamble, purchase lottery tickets or visit an establishment where gaming is conducted, including restaurants where Keno may be played."

Elliott, 55, has collected the first of 20 annual $50,000 checks from the Massachusetts lottery commission. A picture of Elliott, holding his first check, was posted on the lottery's Web site Monday, though it was removed by Wednesday.

As part of his sentence, Elliott was put under the care of the state Mental Health Department and sent to a hospital for treatment, and state officials refused Wednesday to say whether he was still being treated.

A telephone number for Elliott could not immediately be located Wednesday, and it was not clear whether he had a lawyer.

The lottery routinely cross references the names of winners with the state Revenue Department to see if they owe back taxes or child support, lottery spokesman Dan Rosenfeld said. In those cases, winnings go straight to the Revenue Department.

But in this case, it will be up to the court to determine what will happen with Elliott's winnings.

"This is kind of new territory," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankrobber; bummer; crime; lottery; ma
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1 posted on 11/29/2007 7:08:32 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
He obiously is mentally impaired.

All he needed to do was have someone trusted cash in the ticket, and arrange to have them give him the money (less a small handling fee, of course).

A surrogate winner would have solved his problem, although I don't see how buying lottery tickets (as dumb as that is) is somehow a "parole violation".

2 posted on 11/29/2007 7:11:40 AM PST by traditional1 (Thompson/Hunter '08)
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“I don’t see how buying lottery tickets (as dumb as that is) is somehow a “parole violation”.

“Under terms of his probation, he “may not gamble, purchase lottery tickets or visit an establishment where gaming is conducted, including restaurants where Keno may be played.”


3 posted on 11/29/2007 7:13:18 AM PST by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: nuconvert
Timothy Elliott faces a Dec. 7 court hearing over whether he violated his probation when he bought the $10 ticket for the $800 Million Spectacular game at a supermarket in Hyannis.

The winner of a $1 million lottery.... he "may not gamble, purchase lottery tickets

I should think that is pretty self explanitory. This is a waste of time and resources. He violated probation.

4 posted on 11/29/2007 7:13:40 AM PST by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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To: nuconvert

I’ll take it off his hands...


5 posted on 11/29/2007 7:13:58 AM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: traditional1
I don't see how buying lottery tickets (as dumb as that is) is somehow a "parole violation".

It's a parole violation because it violates the explicit terms of his parole agreement.

I thought that was pretty obvious.

6 posted on 11/29/2007 7:14:18 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: nuconvert
“I don’t see how buying lottery tickets (as dumb as that is) is somehow a “parole violation”.

Apparently it is only a violation if he wins. nobody cares if he loses...

7 posted on 11/29/2007 7:14:50 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: nuconvert

At least he can afford a decent lawyer this time.


8 posted on 11/29/2007 7:15:21 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: nuconvert
I’m figuring he didn’t understand or know. What does lottery tickets have to do with robbing banks though?
9 posted on 11/29/2007 7:16:54 AM PST by CindyDawg
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I’m figuring he didn’t understand or know. What does lottery tickets have to do with robbing banks though?

It doesn't matter since he agreed to the parole agreement. He violated it plain and simple. Now the real question would be if he gets to keep the money. I'm sure the state will do everything in its power to return that money to the general fund for pork...I mean good causes...

10 posted on 11/29/2007 7:19:22 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: CindyDawg

Maybe he robbed the bank to pay for his gambling addiction? I would assume that he has a gambling problem if his parole went into enough detail to list restaurants with keno inside.


11 posted on 11/29/2007 7:19:48 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: CindyDawg

Knowing nothing about this case, I’m going to take a guess, that he was offered a plea because he has a history of gambling and used gambling debts as an excuse for why he robbed the bank.
just a guess


12 posted on 11/29/2007 7:20:07 AM PST by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: nuconvert

He won. Give him the money.


13 posted on 11/29/2007 7:23:25 AM PST by mysterio
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To: nuconvert
This man wasn't sentenced to prison. He was sent to a mental health facility. It sounds like gambling might have been one of his problems.

It was an "unarmed" robbery and it sounds like someone said "stop" and he surrendered.

I find the "no lottery clause" to be "cruel and unusual"....a whim of the judge. Give the man the money.

He simply did no wrong. Violating probation? Happens every day!! Find me 10 people that were forced to turn over a million dollars because they violated probation. Find me one!!

14 posted on 11/29/2007 7:23:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: nuconvert

Buying a lottery ticket is gambling? My state tells me it’s just fun, fun, fun.


15 posted on 11/29/2007 7:27:58 AM PST by DManA
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To: nuconvert

A bank robber? Give his winnings to the bank.


16 posted on 11/29/2007 7:29:39 AM PST by YourAdHere (Buy My Book, Bradypalooza, from Amazon.Com)
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To: nuconvert

But I thought the lottery was just a tax on the stupid, not gambling.


17 posted on 11/29/2007 7:30:10 AM PST by CougarGA7 (I'm supporting a Conservative not a RINO http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: nuconvert
That would make sense. I’m almost hoping he gets away with it though. I'm tired of the way the money monster(our government) rubs it’s hands together, slobbering, “Me like Money!”
18 posted on 11/29/2007 7:31:04 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: nuconvert

The big question I have is, what are the “or else” terms of his probation? I’d be very surprised if it explicitly states that winnings will be confiscated. I’d take a deal where I have to back to jail but get to keep the cash.


19 posted on 11/29/2007 7:33:42 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: CindyDawg; YourAdHere

Well, he’s cost the city/state money between his trial and hospitalization, etc - so why not use the money to reimburse for those expenses, and then have the future checks go to various local charities?


20 posted on 11/29/2007 7:34:12 AM PST by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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