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Bill Clinton Flatly Asserts He Opposed War at Start
NY Times ^ | Nov. 28, 2007 | By PATRICK HEALY

Posted on 11/27/2007 6:25:39 PM PST by jdm

During a campaign swing for his wife, former President Bill Clinton said flatly yesterday that he opposed the war in Iraq “from the beginning” — a statement that is more absolute than his comments before the invasion in March 2003.

Before the invasion, Mr. Clinton did not precisely declare that he opposed the war. A week before military action began, however, he did say that he preferred to give weapons inspections more time and that an invasion was not necessary to topple Saddam Hussein.

At the same time, he also spoke supportively about the 2002 Senate resolution that authorized military action against Iraq.

Advisers to Mr. Clinton said yesterday that he did oppose the war, but that it would have been inappropriate at the time for him, a former president, to oppose — in a direct, full-throated manner — the sitting president’s military decision.

Mr. Clinton has said several times since the war began that he would not have attacked Iraq in the manner that President Bush had done. As early as June 2004, he said, “I would not have done it until after Hans Blix finished the job,” referring to the weapons inspections there before the war.

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To: Eva

Back at the time of the first Gulf War, some of the anti-war Democrats tried to stop GHWB from liberating Kuwait. Bill Clinton came down firmly on both sides of the issue.


61 posted on 11/27/2007 8:16:19 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: jdm
A week before military action began, however, he did say that he preferred to give weapons inspections more time and that an invasion was not necessary to topple Saddam Hussein.

At the same time, he also spoke supportively about the 2002 Senate resolution that authorized military action against Iraq.

In other words, the polling numbers were ambiguous, so he had to have some statement on record on both sides of the issue. That way, whichever way the wind blew (no pun intended), he could claim to be on that side. That's not leadership, that's following...badly.

62 posted on 11/27/2007 8:30:11 PM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: jdm

Does anyone believe Billy boy?


63 posted on 11/27/2007 8:40:19 PM PST by 444Flyer ("Oly Oly Oxen Free!" Heb 9:27, Rev 22:17,John 3:1-36, Jude 9, Eph 6, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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To: jdm

I’ve heard Bill Clinton on tv say we had to take out Saddam. But hey let him lie his as off, that’s what he’s good at.


64 posted on 11/27/2007 8:43:42 PM PST by Williams
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To: jdm
Here's a CNN report which proves otherwise...

Clinton defends successor's push for war

Says Bush 'couldn't responsibly ignore' chance Iraq had WMDs

Wednesday, June 23, 2004 Posted: 7:55 AM EDT (1155 GMT)

(CNN) -- Former President Clinton has revealed that he continues to support President Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq but chastised the administration over the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison.

"I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over," Clinton said in a Time magazine interview that will hit newsstands Monday, a day before the publication of his book "My Life."

Clinton, who was interviewed Thursday, said he did not believe that Bush went to war in Iraq over oil or for imperialist reasons but out of a genuine belief that large quantities of weapons of mass destruction remained unaccounted for.

Noting that Bush had to be "reeling" in the wake of the attacks of September 11, 2001, Clinton said Bush's first priority was to keep al Qaeda and other terrorist networks from obtaining "chemical and biological weapons or small amounts of fissile material."

"That's why I supported the Iraq thing. There was a lot of stuff unaccounted for," Clinton said in reference to Iraq and the fact that U.N. weapons inspectors left the country in 1998.

"So I thought the president had an absolute responsibility to go to the U.N. and say, 'Look, guys, after 9/11, you have got to demand that Saddam Hussein lets us finish the inspection process.' You couldn't responsibly ignore [the possibility that] a tyrant had these stocks," Clinton said.

Pressed on whether the Iraq war was worth the cost to the United States, Clinton said he would not have undertaken the war until after U.N. chief weapons inspector Hans Blix "finished his job."

Weapons inspectors led by Blix scoured Iraq for three and a half months before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003 but left after President Bush issued an ultimatum to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein to leave the country.

"I want it to have been worth it, even though I didn't agree with the timing of the attack," Clinton said."

"http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/index.html"

65 posted on 11/27/2007 9:06:31 PM PST by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: jdm

” If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United Nations Security Council and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program.

But if we act as one, we can safeguard our interests and send a clear message to every would-be tyrant and terrorist that the international community does have the wisdom and the will and the way to protect peace and security in a new era. That is the future I ask you all to imagine. That is the future I ask our allies to imagine.

If we look at the past and imagine that future, we will act as one together. And we still have, God willing, a chance to find a diplomatic resolution to this, and if not, God willing, the chance to do the right thing for our children and grandchildren. “

BJ Clinton, 17Feb1998


66 posted on 11/27/2007 9:14:19 PM PST by sono (Hillary's Campaign Theme Song? Donovan, "Season of The Witch")
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To: jdm

Well I flatly don’t give a rat’s rear end what x42 asserts about anything. If his lips are moving, he’s lying, so it doesn’t matter what he says today, or what he said 5 years ago.


67 posted on 11/27/2007 9:20:33 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: jdm

This is ironic because Bush chose to go to war based on many of the reasons repeatedly cited by Clinton throughout his presidency.


68 posted on 11/27/2007 9:27:56 PM PST by KoRn
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To: Ratblaster

The day that he dies, the video of him wagging his finger, ... forevermore, that will be the most remembered image of him.”
_______________________________________

True, that’s the image I associate with him now, almost 8 years later. Good.


69 posted on 11/27/2007 10:54:02 PM PST by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: jdm

Clinton defends successor's push for war

Says Bush 'couldn't responsibly ignore' chance Iraq had WMDs

Wednesday, June 23, 2004 Posted: 7:55 AM EDT (1155 GMT)

CNN) -- Former President Clinton has revealed that he continues to support President Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq but chastised the administration over the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison. http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/19/clinton.iraq/index.html

70 posted on 11/28/2007 6:37:17 AM PST by sazerac
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To: jdm

A good question to ask her while she trolls for votes in Miami is did she support her husband’s decision to send Elian back to Cuba.


71 posted on 11/28/2007 7:15:28 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: jdm

That “Horny Hick” (Thanks Ann!!) tell the truth? Oh please!!!


72 posted on 11/28/2007 7:20:37 AM PST by Brytani
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To: jdm

NEWS FLASHBACK

Tacoma News Tribune
December 20, 1998

U.S. and Britain halt airstrikes against Iraq

Sub-headline, Citing ‘significant damage’, Clinton says Saddam must be ousted to avoid future threats.

BAGHDAD, Iraq – President Clinton ended the air campaign against Iraq on Saturday saying: “I’m confident we have achieved our mission.” Yet despite suffering more than 400 punishing bomb and missile strikes over four nights, Saddam Hussein’s government remained defiant and said it would bar any return of U.N. arms inspectors to the country.
SNIP
In blunt language, Clinton called for the ouster of the Iraqi leader. “So long as Saddam remains in power, he will remain a threat to his people, his region and the World.
SNIP


73 posted on 11/28/2007 7:27:55 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

So lets look at just how much of a ‘continued threat’ Saddam really was AFTER Clinton made the above statement. This is just a partial list of the times Iraq fired at American and British aircraft patrolling the Northern No Fly Zone during Operation Northern Watch. Some of the data was not available, like the entire year of 2000. The list also does not include other violations, such as locking air defense radar onto Coalition aircraft. If all the violations were included, the list would be much much longer.
Sooooooo with all of these documented attacks on our aircraft patrolling the Northern No-Fly Zone after Clinton said “Saddam must be ousted”, why is Bush and Cheney being persecuted for doing just that? I feel Bush’s only mistake was placing too much emphasis on the WMD and not building a better case based on the countless other violations of the cease fire.

13 Jan 1999 SAM systems track and fire on Coalition aircraft
25 Jan 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to surface to air missile launch
28 Jan 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
11 Feb 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
12 Feb 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
15 Feb 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
1 Mar 1999 Iraq fires anti-aircraft artillery at coalition aircraft
14 Mar 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
1 Mar 1999 Iraq fires anti-aircraft artillery at coalition aircraft
6 Mar 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
25 May 1999 Coalition aircraft respond to Iraqi AAA fire
04 Sep 2001 Iraqi AAA fired at, radar targets ONW aircraft
27 Aug 2001 ONW aircraft fired upon, coalition responds
17 Aug 2001 ONW Aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
07 Aug 2001 Iraqi missiles and AAA fired at ONW aircraft
18 Jul 2001 USAF F-16 aircraft crashes in Turkey
14 Jun 2001 ONW aircraft respond to targeting radar, AAA
23 May 2001 ONW aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
30 Apr 2001 AAA fired at ONW aircraft
06 Apr 2001 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft

22 Feb 2001 ONW Aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
12 Feb 2001 ONW Aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
24 Jan 2001 Iraqi missiles and AAA fired at ONW aircraft
04 Dec 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
02 Dec 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
28 Nov 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
18 Nov 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
17 Nov 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
30 Oct 2002 ONW aircraft defend against Iraqi anti-aircraft threat
22 Oct 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft
26 Jun 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft, Coalition responds
19 Jun 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft, Coalition responds
28 May 2002 ONW aircraft fired upon, Coalition responds
01 May 2002 Iraq fires AAA at Northern Watch Aircraft
28 Feb 2002 ONW Aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
04 Feb 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft
31 Jan 2003 Iraq Attacks Operation Northern Watch Aircraft Monitoring No-Fly Zone
04 Feb 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft
28 Feb 2002 ONW Aircraft fired upon and targeted by radar
19 Apr 2002 Iraq targets Coalition aircraft
01 May 2002 Iraq fires AAA at Northern Watch Aircraft
28 May 2002 ONW aircraft fired upon, Coalition responds
19 Jun 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft, Coalition responds
26 Jun 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft, Coalition responds
04 Jul 2002 ONW aircraft threatened, Coalition responds
23 Aug 2002 Iraqi targets coalition aircraft
27 Aug 2002 Iraqi targets coalition aircraft
09 Oct 2002 Iraq threatens coalition aircraft
22 Oct 2002 Iraq fires AAA at ONW aircraft
18 Nov 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
28 Nov 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone
02 Dec 2002 Iraq attacks ONW aircraft monitoring No-Fly zone


74 posted on 11/28/2007 7:29:29 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: BillyBoy

Does anyone have a link or quote to anything he said after Bush’s ordered invasion?
This guy makes me ill and I am wanting to prove this to those who are agreeing with him.


75 posted on 11/28/2007 7:36:44 AM PST by amutr22
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To: LibLieSlayer

“EASILY proved a lie... “

So true. However, liberals don’t like to be confused with the truth. And, when presented with the truth, they disregard it if it doesn’t coincide with their agenda.


76 posted on 11/28/2007 8:08:05 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: jdm

In a few years he’ll claim he supported it before he opposed it.


77 posted on 11/28/2007 8:16:17 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Paladin2

His lips are moving again. Nuff said!


78 posted on 11/28/2007 8:18:06 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: jdm
DemocratMarxistSocialists lie....

Go watch this video.

http://www.gop.com/Multimedia/MediaPlayer.aspx?ID=1033&TypeID=2

79 posted on 11/28/2007 8:22:23 AM PST by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: NavyCanDo
I feel Bush’s only mistake was placing too much emphasis on the WMD and not building a better case based on the countless other violations of the cease fire.

I wish more people would look at the Text of Joint Resolution On Iraq Passed By The United States Congress 296-133 by the House of Representatives and 77-23 by the Senate on October 10 and 11, 2002. There are 23 reasons why we went to war against Iraq and many them did not have anything to do with WMD.

If I were Bush or any GOP Presidential hopeful, I would point this out time and again. It is all there including violations of the ceasefire.

80 posted on 11/28/2007 8:22:54 AM PST by kabar
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