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Deer hunters prove guns aren’t the problem
Greater Milwaukee Today ^ | 11/21/07 | Mark Belling

Posted on 11/27/2007 9:53:11 AM PST by baldeagle390

About 650,000 armed men have been roaming around Wisconsin the last few days. Yet there are no reports of any of them killing each other intentionally and, as of Monday, only one had died in an accident. Yet, we are lectured over and over by the liberal apologentsia that the reason there’s so much violence in urban America is because of easy access to guns. Yeah, then how come the deer hunters aren’t killing each other? In fact, Wisconsin’s deer hunt is everything Milwaukee’s central city isn’t. Despite the often heavy drinking, inevitable tensions between close family members, squabbles over who has a right to hunt where, pressure to get the big buck and the sheer firepower of the average deer rifle, incidents almost never occur. As of Monday evening, there was a lone single fatal accident.

The clichŽ that "guns don’t kill people, people kill people" sounds trite but the peace of the Wisconsin deer hunt proves its truth. The shooting gallery in Milwaukee’s central city and near south side has nothing to do with access to guns and everything to do with a breakdown of culture. The fact that the majority of the criminals are black or Hispanic has gagged white liberals into silence about the real problems. Black leaders, with the rare exception of a Bill Cosby or Sheriff David Clarke, are nonexistent. In the meantime, tens of thousands of kids are being raised without fathers by young mothers. Many of those moms are themselves on drugs or involved in crime. Gang leaders rule neighborhoods. Yes, they use guns. So do the deer hunters. The difference is that the deer hunters have values and responsibility.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; hunting; liberalism
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To: baldeagle390

Good article.


21 posted on 11/27/2007 10:57:51 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tdaley

I believe this article is exactly to the point and that is that people kill people, not guns.

Welcome to Free Republic.


22 posted on 11/27/2007 11:15:17 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: girlangler

It is a good article, thanks for the ping.


23 posted on 11/27/2007 11:17:44 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..

If you’d like to be on or off this Upper Midwest/outdoors/rural list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.


24 posted on 11/27/2007 11:21:39 AM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: SJackson

For the record, how did the “lone” death occur?


25 posted on 11/27/2007 11:25:15 AM PST by Scythian
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To: baldeagle390

Just bought my 11 year old stepson his first .410 this past weekend for Christmas.


26 posted on 11/27/2007 11:25:53 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Join me for the Million Minutemen March --- Summer 2008!!)
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To: Landru
"The shooting gallery in Milwaukee’s central city and near south side has nothing to do with access to guns and everything to do with a breakdown of culture. "

Am I supposed to interpret this sentence as if it were some newly discovered, heretofore unheard of wisdom unearthed within the last 48 hours? Does this article break any new ground for anybody? Anybody? Bueller?

No matter how much of an "anti-gun" stance any citizen, activist or politician takes, the gangsters inhabiting the central city and near south side are still obtaining weapons. Tougher laws and tighter gun control have done nothing to stem the tide of gun violence in this area.

The laws and legal requirements inhibiting gun ownership can continue to increase exponentially; nothing will change. The gangsters inhabiting the central city and near south side are still going to obtain weapons.

Unless and until our society addresses the cause of the problem instead of the result, the only change that will occur will be an escalation of the violence over an ever larger area. Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
27 posted on 11/27/2007 11:26:48 AM PST by BraveMan
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28 posted on 11/27/2007 11:31:16 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Scythian; SJackson
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David R. Ruck, 18, of Saxeville was shot in the leg and groin in Waushara County Sunday morning and died at a Neenah hospital. Authorities said his 63-year-old grandfather, Gerald Ruck of Three Lakes, shot him when he mistook the teen for a deer.

David Ruck was wearing the required blaze orange clothing, but he had wrapped himself in a brown blanket as he walked out of the woods.

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From: http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=688137

29 posted on 11/27/2007 11:33:56 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: Scythian

A man shot his late teen grandson who had apparently wrapped himself in a tan blanket, opening day I believe.


30 posted on 11/27/2007 11:37:03 AM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: BraveMan
"The shooting gallery in Milwaukee’s central city and near south side has nothing to do with access to guns and everything to do with a breakdown of culture. "....Am I supposed to interpret this sentence as if it were some newly discovered, heretofore unheard of wisdom unearthed within the last 48 hours? Does this article break any new ground for anybody? Anybody? Bueller?

It's an urban paper so yes, for a lot of people reading the article it's new ground. Which many likely don't believe. It's important the message get out.

31 posted on 11/27/2007 11:39:17 AM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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To: SJackson

Thanks, how horrible and sad, the man should have never been hunting seeing as he was shooting at something he clearly couldn’t see well.


32 posted on 11/27/2007 11:40:28 AM PST by Scythian
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To: dashing doofus
To me, it (correctly) implies that those who go thru the legal process required to purchase and carry a weapon are not a threat to the general population.

You could not be more wrong. The "legal process" does nothing. Either a person is responsible or not. The gun or the governemnt's stupid "process" are not even part of the equation.

Note, here in Texas there is no "legal process" other than minimum age to go thru to buy a shotgun at all. This alone refutes you entire point.

33 posted on 11/27/2007 11:54:52 AM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: Eaker

The legal process I refer to is to be eligible under ATF 4473. Nothing more. As it should be.


34 posted on 11/27/2007 12:51:25 PM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: tdaley
The background checks that are in place today are designed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

Quinn's First Law: Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent. Similarly, government bureaucracies never solve problems, they manage them and exacerbate the ones they created by interfering with market forces and processes.

The only thing the background checks do is make it harder for law-abiding citizens to purchase certain guns quickly. Criminals will get their guns, regardless of the laws out there, by breaking the laws they don't follow in the first place. Which is the nutshell of the article. Deer hunters follow the laws in place, criminals with guns don't.

35 posted on 11/27/2007 12:55:51 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) I’m paranoid. The only question is, am I paranoid enough?)
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To: Sybeck1

“Just bought my 11 year old stepson his first .410 this past weekend for Christmas.”

I’m 70 years old today, and the most important gift I received in life was the gift of hunting. Your step son will thank you all of his life.


36 posted on 11/27/2007 12:56:55 PM PST by billhilly (I was republican when republican wasn't cool. (With an apology to Barbara Mandrell.))
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To: dashing doofus

To buy a shotgun there is no ATF 4473. As it should be and as it should be with all weapons.

You miss the point entirely. The government and stupid forms do nothing concerning the availability of weapons and their use.

Availabilty and / or the governemnt has nothing to do with inner city garbage killing each other.

That is the entire point.


37 posted on 11/27/2007 1:00:49 PM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: mallardx

I remember one holiday season, my brother in law, an entrenched elitist liberal, was talking about gun control.

He said no one needed a semi-automatic rifle. I asked him to describe exactly what a semi-automatic was. He gave me a sheepish look and admitted he didn’t know.

I went on to tell him that “semi-automatice” simply meant that a new cartridge was loaded when the previous one was fired - one pull, one shot - and that most deer rifles operated that way as well.

It showed him that he didn’t have any basis for his opinion, but, libs are highly impervious to reason and facts.


38 posted on 11/27/2007 1:01:11 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: tcostell

A Carhart costs $1,000??!

Who knew?!


39 posted on 11/27/2007 1:02:19 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) I’m paranoid. The only question is, am I paranoid enough?)
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To: baldeagle390

Well said- hope they all are successful in getting their deer and that it passes the test for CWD. Venison tastes sooooo good.


40 posted on 11/27/2007 1:09:10 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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