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YouTube Video Shows Man Tasered After Refusing to Sign Ticket
Fox News ^ | November 21, 2007 | Sara Bonisteel

Posted on 11/21/2007 11:58:07 AM PST by Sopater

An internal police investigation is under way after a formal complaint was filed against a Utah state trooper who was videotaped Tasering a man who refused to sign a speeding ticket.

The officer's conduct has been called into question after a videotape of the incident was posted on YouTube.

The video, taken from a Utah Highway Patrol dashboard camera, shows Trooper John Gardner using a Taser on Jared Massey during a traffic stop on State Road 40 in Uintah County on Sept. 14.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; leo; revenuetickets; taser; utah
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To: Loud Mime
There have always been two sets of rules.

"Anybody crazy enough to attack a cop ..." and all that.

But a tazer isn't really considered lethal.

Did you notice how talkative and rational the doofus was after riding the lightning?
81 posted on 11/21/2007 12:31:59 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: secretagent
Absent an announcement of arrest, I find no fault, but rather virtue, with the citizen not complying.

LOL--that statement should come with a disclaimer. Something such as, "poster not responsible for loss of teeth."

82 posted on 11/21/2007 12:32:29 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: wolfpat

That’s what really makes me think that the cop knew he had messed up. He lied to the other cop about the events. Either that or he was so shook up he didn’t remember. Either way, I don’t want him on the police force in my city. There are way better men out there wearing the uniform.
susie


83 posted on 11/21/2007 12:32:36 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Google for the guy who beat the snot out of a female cop while his twelve-year-old daughter watched.

It happens, and that the doofus’ irrational actions predicated the officer’s tazer action.


84 posted on 11/21/2007 12:33:33 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: 1rudeboy

Yep.

Posted like somebody who’s never been “restrained” before.


85 posted on 11/21/2007 12:34:15 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Sopater

“However, to taser the guy before you explain that to him, and to let him fall into a highway where cars are driving by at 40MPH seems a bit excessive and dangerous.”

From what I saw and heard in the video, the officer was more than justified in taking the measures that he did. That he didn’t also take the wife into custody for interferring with an officer was surprising to me. He spent more time attempting to reason with these two dolts than what they deserved.


86 posted on 11/21/2007 12:34:23 PM PST by Howie66 (To the RAT Party: How can I question your patriotism? You have none, so what's your point?)
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To: Sopater

Officer was very wrong. Should lose his job.


87 posted on 11/21/2007 12:34:53 PM PST by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Yeah, those 28-year old married white guys with pregnant wives in their cars shoot cops on a daily basis.

Yeah, but most 28 year old married white guys with a pregnant wife in the car act rationally and responsibly.

BTW, would you have reacted to a traffic ticket the way Massey did?

88 posted on 11/21/2007 12:36:06 PM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: Logical me
Not all gun shots result in death But a ton of damage, less damage than a tasar
89 posted on 11/21/2007 12:36:27 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: donna

Dispatch is notified, the cop has a carbon copy, the DL # and plate.


90 posted on 11/21/2007 12:38:17 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I saw the video you are referring to a long time ago.

The “doofus” as you refer to him was not a threat to the officer. The officer did not follow procedure when he was issuing the ticket. Had he done that and the guy got out of hand and refused, than the officer had the rights to arrest the guy.

The guy in the older video was a threat the moment the officer thought of pulling him over. Hope she made a full recovery.


91 posted on 11/21/2007 12:39:57 PM PST by rineaux (How dare you, how dare you question the Clinton's wrecked record.)
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To: wideawake
A taser is non-lethal (and, yes, I know that people sometimes die from being tasered...

In case you haven't noticed, dude, there has been a LOT of that lately.

92 posted on 11/21/2007 12:41:14 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: Sopater

This idiot needs to be terminated from police employment. The trooper should have asked for a decision by his supervisor as to what he should do in such a situation.

On this forum officers comment on the signing of citations.

Go to: http://forums.officer.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-14631.html

Here is some advice from an attorney:

General Practice - Traffic Law - Signing ticket

What could happen if a police officer wanted me to sign a traffic ticket and I refused?
The traffic ticket contains an actual notice to you of a pending court date at which you must appear. By signing the ticket, you are providing an acknowledgment of receipt of the “notice to appear.” Since the officer is charging you with a violation of law, he could take you into custody. By signing the traffic ticket, you avoid being taken into custody at that time, and are “released on your own recognizance” pending the court date. It is better to sign the traffic ticket and go about your business pending the court date. By signing the traffic ticket, you remain free and retain the right to show up at the hearing to contest the issuance of the citation or summons.

A person is free to refuse to sign the traffic ticket; however, the police officer is free to place him/her under arrest and take him/her into custody.


93 posted on 11/21/2007 12:41:23 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: muawiyah

What did they do before they got tazors?


94 posted on 11/21/2007 12:41:44 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: SJSAMPLE; Bubba Ho-Tep

Google for the guy who beat the snot out of a female cop while his twelve-year-old daughter watched.
http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=74


95 posted on 11/21/2007 12:42:02 PM PST by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: Logical me

Compare the number of taser-ings (40,000 last year, from FOX ?) with shootings. 150/40,000 =.00375 or .375% isn’t that lethal, especially compared to gunshots.

The vast majority of taserings end just like the video, with a lucid but compliant suspect.

The taser is here to stay because the alternatives, like a split skull and broken bones, etc. are much worse.


96 posted on 11/21/2007 12:42:26 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
But he lied...why would he lie? I think the cop overreacted...could have handled it in a more professional manner.
97 posted on 11/21/2007 12:42:59 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: donna

Thanks for your help ;)

Doing the work I’m too lazy to do ;)


98 posted on 11/21/2007 12:43:17 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: keat
I’m the last guy to automatically say the cops are always in the right but, after watching the video, the guy was resisting arrest.

Yah. I watched it. The audio was spotty and alot of what was said was unclear at times. But the driver of the SUV was flipping the cop crap from the moment the cop pulled him over. He was spoiling for a fight. He's lucky he didn't get nightstick across the knees.

Cops, even if you think they are wrong, rightly must expect that their commands will be obeyed. You choose to stop doing that, and the situation will escalate. Every time.

You don't need to tell the officer that you disagree with the ticket. That part of the event is over. He's not going to change his mind, nor should he. That's now for a judge to sort out. You politely sign the ticket and go about your business. If this guy had done that he would've driven away without incident. But he was the one that decided instead to create a scene, and he got was he was itchin' for.

99 posted on 11/21/2007 12:43:17 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: nobody in particular
Would've been nice to hear the discussion at 7:10 of the video.

Based on cloud movement, it's missing ~10 minutes.

100 posted on 11/21/2007 12:43:47 PM PST by SGCOS
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