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Parents Ordered to Court for Kids' Shots
The Associated Press ^ | Nov 17, 2007 | MATTHEW BARAKAT

Posted on 11/17/2007 1:45:09 PM PST by Baladas

Hundreds of grumbling parents facing a threat of jail lined up at a courthouse Saturday to either prove that their school-age kids already had their required vaccinations or see that the youngsters submitted to the needle.

The get-tough policy in the Washington suburbs of Prince George's County was one of the strongest efforts made by any U.S. school system to ensure its youngsters receive their required immunizations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: health; immunization; judicalactivism; medicine; publiceducation; publicheath; socialism; vaccination
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To: webstersII

Yep. And if the vaccine were invented today it probably wouldn’t be marketed. This ain’t the 50s! It sucks, but hundreds of millions are free from the scourge of polio as a result.


61 posted on 11/17/2007 6:43:52 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Gabz

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62 posted on 11/17/2007 7:25:28 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: abclily; aberaussie; albertp; AliVeritas; Amelia; AnAmericanMother; andie74; AVNevis; bannie; ...

Public Education Ping

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63 posted on 11/17/2007 7:25:57 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This is becoming a fairly high volume list.
64 posted on 11/17/2007 7:26:30 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

A doctor friend of mine says there’s mercury in the flu shot, and she will not get one.


65 posted on 11/17/2007 7:37:42 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: metmom

I’m no supporter of public education, but if the school didn’t object and that kid got infected with something and infected others, the school would be attacked for not doing enough to get the kid vaccinated.


66 posted on 11/17/2007 7:40:54 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: webstersII

Yes, I had a friend with a child who contracted polio from the live vaccine, and another whose child developed juvenile rheumatism after the alternative pertussis.

He takes shots of something(long-term effects unknown) because otherwise he cannot walk and is in pain around the clock.


67 posted on 11/17/2007 7:41:31 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Very likely they’re doing it to cover their butts.

The problem is that their tactics smack so much of Nazism and communism.


68 posted on 11/17/2007 7:45:54 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Unfortunately, even though I took both my girls to 3 different 'chicken pox' parties, they both caught only the very mildest form of the disease and are at great risk for shingles as an adult.

I thought "chicken pox parties" were just something us crazy homeschoolers did. ;-) Actually, I've always thought they were a bad idea, and I was surprised when other moms I knew would go to them. But now I think maybe those moms had the right idea. I wish our eldest sons had caught chicken pox by now. Our eldest is turning 12 soon, so we're considering the vaccine before puberty sets in.

69 posted on 11/17/2007 8:21:33 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: DoughtyOne
So basicly what we’re probably seeing is parents who didn’t bother to comply.

According to the article, a bunch of the students allegedly not vaccinated had been vaccinated after all. At least one mother said the school lost the paperwork, and others brought paperwork with them to prove vaccinations. So this whole mess could be just bureaucratic nonsense.

70 posted on 11/17/2007 8:27:59 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

I had a really terrible case of chicken pox as a child, in fact it ruined my eyesight, but I still have had several cases of shingles.


71 posted on 11/17/2007 8:52:10 PM PST by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Well in one way that’s good I suppose. I’d be rather po’d if it we me on their hit list though.


72 posted on 11/17/2007 10:11:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: Baladas

thanks, bfl


73 posted on 11/18/2007 12:21:23 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Wherever there are kids, moms, and chicken pox, there will always be ‘chicken pox’ parties. Unfortunately, they don’t always work - I even had my oldest SLEEP next to a kid who was in the prime infectious time and she ended up with three little pox on her back. Now she is in college and if and when she gets it now, it’s going to be bad.


74 posted on 11/18/2007 4:47:53 AM PST by SoftballMominVA (Never wrestle with a pig; he wants to get dirty anyway.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Right you are. “Immigrants” don’t have shot records and in every school office in fine print at the bottom of the blue slip says for discrimination reasons you are not required to show this record.(or something along those lines). The schools will demand those records of citizens but they don’t with the illegals, and then the other children are exposed to all the new strains of T.B. and other illnesses. Very frustrating!!


75 posted on 11/18/2007 4:54:26 AM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: AnAmericanMother

Excellent, sane post. Thank you.


76 posted on 11/18/2007 5:27:32 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Lizavetta

Of course thats what this is all about, one would have to be a fool (so I guess on the left) not to see it. If the argument was:

To use the logic: hey this is a state service and to use it you need these vaccinations is ok but when you say ‘This is a mandatory ‘service’ and you have to get your kids vaccinated you jump the shark


77 posted on 11/18/2007 5:44:40 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Knowing the demographics of the area, you can bet that a great portion of these children are from the illegal alient community.

Its outrageous that the liberal MSM can't even mention that because it would not be PC.

78 posted on 11/18/2007 5:49:23 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator
Dear KC_Conspirator,

“Knowing the demographics of the area, you can bet that a great portion of these children are from the illegal alient community.”

Perhaps, but compared to the rest of the Washington region, the illegal immigrant population in Prince George’s County is likely more modest, because the numbers of Hispanics in the county are lower than in many nearby jurisdictions.

Prince George's has a higher Hispanic population than Washington, DC, and adjacent Anne Arundel and Howard Counties, but significantly lower than Montgomery County, Fairfax County, VA, Alexandria, VA, or Arlington County, VA.

As of 2005, Prince George's County's population is about 7% Hispanic.

Montgomery County’s Hispanic population is about 11.5% of the total population.

Fairfax County, Virginia is about 11%.

Arlington County, Virginia has more than twice as high a percentage with about 18.5% or so.

The City of Alexandria, Virginia has nearly twice the percentage of Prince George’s County, where the Hispanic population is nearly 14%.


sitetest

79 posted on 11/18/2007 6:21:36 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: cricket
That vaccines can 'never' be tainted. . .impure or just a 'bad batch'; and that those who receive them; are physically equal is unrealistic.

Immunizations, and all medications and medical treatments for that matter, involve risks as well as benefits and we can never be sure when we have to make the decision for ourselves or our children that we know all of these tradeoffs. I remember standing in line for the sugar cube polio vaccine in the 1950's and now it has been proven that that vaccine was tainted with a monkey virus from the monkey tissue it was grown on. That monkey virus has now been implicated in the rise of a certain kind of brain cancer in children and it is thought that mothers can pass this virus on to their children during pregnancy.

If you don't believe this then go to the Atlantic magazine website and search for articles on polio. This article details the entire story including how much obstructionism and disdain the Italian researcher had to endure from the US medical establishment. He eventually found a vial of the old vaccine in a GP's office and was able to prove the existance of the monkey virus.

The point of my comments is not to encourage people not to get vaccines, I have had my own children vaccinated (MMR, DPT and menningitus for a college age child), but to warn that we will never be able to know all the potential risks. To believe that medical science understands the human immune system and its interaction with the environment sufficiently to provide all the answers about the risks and benefits of vaccines is to exhibit supreme human arrogance. Given the real threat of polio in the 50's, I do not blame my parents for giving me the vaccine. I do blame the medical/public health industry in this country for trying to thwart research and intimidate individuals who are doing research on possible risks of immunizations.

What would my parents have done if they knew then the vaccine was tainted with a monkey virus? Probably the same thing because polio was a clear and present danger at that time and the risks of the monkey virus was an unknown future possibility. We can never be sure that what we are being told by medical authorities about immunizations is the full and complete truth and to be honest they can not know this themselves. We have to make decisions, including public policy decisions, within this area of doubt and of unknown possible harm and for me this implies the least coercive policy on mandating immunizations and maximum freedom for individual choice is called for.

80 posted on 11/18/2007 6:46:57 AM PST by politeia
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