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House Passes Anti-War Bill
AP via SFGate ^ | 11/14/7 | ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/14/2007 7:15:48 PM PST by SmithL

House Democrats pushed through a $50 billion bill for the Iraq war Wednesday night that would require President Bush to start bringing troops home in coming weeks with a goal of ending combat by December 2008.

The legislation, passed 218-203, was largely a symbolic jab at Bush, who already has begun reducing force levels but opposes a congressionally mandated timetable on the war. And while the measure was unlikely to pass in the Senate — let alone overcome a presidential veto — Democrats said they wanted voters to know they weren't giving up.

"The fact is, we can no longer sustain the military deployment in Iraq," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. "Staying there in the manner that we are there is no longer an option."

The White House pledged to veto the bill, and Republicans said they would back the president.

"In addition to infringing upon the president's constitutional authority as commander in chief, the bill would mandate a precipitous withdrawal of troops that could increase the probability that American troops would have to one day return to Iraq to confront an even more dangerous enemy," an administration statement said.

The bill represents about a quarter of the $196 billion Bush requested for combat operations in the 2008 budget year, which began Oct 1.

It would compel an unspecified number of troops to leave Iraq within 30 days, a requirement Bush is already on track to meet as he begins in coming weeks to reverse the 30,000 troop buildup he ordered earlier this year. It also sets a goal of ending combat by Dec. 15, 2008, and states that money included in the bill should be used to redeploy troops and "not to extend or prolong the war."

The measure also would set government-wide standards on interrogation,...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; aidandcomfort; copperheads; cultureofcutandrun; democratparty; democratscandals; dopeydems; election2008; iraq; supportthemission; supportthetroops; unconstitutional; wot
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To: Zeon Cowboy

Something like Jimmy Carter’s new beginning. Then the roof fell in, domestically and in foreign affairs.


101 posted on 11/15/2007 9:27:53 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: matthew fuller
I don't do Coede Pink talking points.

My sincere apologies, then. My mistake.

102 posted on 11/15/2007 9:28:05 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: IrishMike
That is the interesting thing to note about all this. The Democrats “slow bleed” strategy on Iraq” managed to do only one thing, slowly bleed their job approval numbers to record lows.
103 posted on 11/15/2007 10:07:30 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Hillary is polarizing, deceitful, and liberal. And those are are her good points!" Beaversmom)
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To: ari-freedom
someone please tell them we’re winning

All they'd have to do is pull their collective heads out of their collective posteriors and they'd see it. Just a click here gives any number of stories on any day that show the progress being made. Too bad the journalistas of today just regurgitate the Dem talking points to "prove" we're losing.

104 posted on 11/15/2007 10:12:15 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Yep !
That’s my take, the slow bleed is what’s going on in the dRAT ‘controlled’congress.
Bush pulled his head out ... finally.
He’s swinging the veto pen like a jihadist swinging a sword.
The moonbats are besides themselves with anger that their wins in October 06 have given them absolutely nothing but failure.
The queen bee, Hillary is slow bleeding in the polls, due to the fact she switches positions more often that a porno queen, and got caught.
The times they are a changin’.


105 posted on 11/15/2007 10:19:17 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Accepted- I should have used quotation marks- My many posts urging drafting of John Bolton should be self evident.


106 posted on 11/15/2007 10:23:57 AM PST by matthew fuller (Crop-circles, killer rabbits and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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To: StarCMC

Too bad the journalistas of today just regurgitate the Dem talking points to “prove” we’re losing.
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or
The dRATs get their talking points from MSM journalists.


107 posted on 11/15/2007 10:25:26 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: IrishMike

I guess it’s pretty redundant, huh?


108 posted on 11/15/2007 10:26:04 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC

Redundant is a media more willing to make news than report news ... for the cause.


109 posted on 11/15/2007 10:33:14 AM PST by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: SmithL

The Dems do this for show, then cave when the bill is vetoed. So they make Bush go to the middle of the three-ring-circus, sign the veto, and then they turn off the lights and give him what he wants. Very predictable and they do no harm in the end.


110 posted on 11/15/2007 10:33:24 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: IrishMike

http://starcmc.wordpress.com/2007/11/13/anti-americanism-in-the-enemedia-is-nothing-new/


111 posted on 11/15/2007 10:41:49 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: SmithL

I say we rotate IN 218 politicians and bring home 218 MIL.


112 posted on 11/15/2007 10:44:10 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: NormsRevenge

Emphasis bump


113 posted on 11/15/2007 10:45:49 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: AliVeritas; All

This is why we need veterans and/or people who understand the need to protect our country from possible attack, including waging necessary wars, in Congress and the White house...

Former Flower Children of the 60’s are a danger to the security of our country...


114 posted on 11/15/2007 10:52:53 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: caseinpoint
Right but this isn’t 1992. Information is simply to easily available to all. I read the other day where 80% of adults now use the internet. The liberal media has lost much of it’d power and it will not get better for them.
115 posted on 11/15/2007 11:05:25 AM PST by aroundabout
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To: SmithL

I don’t understand. Why do the libs call for Bush to begin bringing troops home when, IIRC, about a week ago, the news was that it had already begun? On another, similar note, HRC says she doesn’t support the driver’s licenses for illegals after the NY governor withdraws the idea. How come these...late to the trough...announcements aren’t noticed?


116 posted on 11/15/2007 12:01:47 PM PST by labral
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To: aroundabout

It’s true the Internet is available to the vasst majority of the adult population but you would have to have those adults looking for news and the truth on the internet rather than just shopping and pornography. The real question is how many adults look to multiple sources of internet for news.


117 posted on 11/15/2007 12:24:23 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: caseinpoint
It’s not just looking for news. Most older folks use the web for email and they get links sent by other people that curiosity leads them to follow. Drudge is a great site because it links to so many news sources. I often get links and screen grabs from DRUDGE and other sites from people I know.

Also there is word of mouth from people who see things or have then sent to them by others and tell their friends (or enemies) or neighbors.

Bottom line is info is spread far, far quicker today then ever before and is available to more and more people.

118 posted on 11/15/2007 12:39:44 PM PST by aroundabout
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To: xtinct
"I have come to disagree with the purpose of this war BUT I have never wavered and never will waver in my support for the sovereignty of the USA and our military --> the most selfless individuals on the planet."

The "purpose" of this war was among other things regime change. That was accomplished. It also was through this change to keep Hussein from ongoing development of a nuke which we NOW KNOW he was intending to do. Imagine if we had not taken him out what we would be into with both Hussein AND AMADOUCHEBAG both working towards the bomb.

Regarding the War in Iraq: I was disappointed to learn that 3 days after G.W. Bush said, "Mission Accomplished" (a proud moment) British Oil, Sunoco, and Sun Oil were drilling in southern Iraq.

Who did you think would develop the oil fields for Iraq? The Iraqi's haven't the equipment or technology to do it themselves. Who would you rather have seen doing this, Russia, Argentina?

119 posted on 11/15/2007 12:48:48 PM PST by aroundabout
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To: aroundabout

I hope you are right. I’d like to see the stranglehold of the MSM broken decisively this election. And then I’d like to see these daily polls debunked. But one thing at a time. ;o)


120 posted on 11/15/2007 12:56:47 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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