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1 posted on 11/10/2007 4:33:14 PM PST by Reform Canada
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2 posted on 11/10/2007 4:33:54 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Reform Canada

Thabks to this article, I have the “Age of Aquarius” playing in my head. Arrrrggghhh!


3 posted on 11/10/2007 4:35:25 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Reform Canada

Bush’s fault.


5 posted on 11/10/2007 4:38:41 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Reform Canada

There is something to this. The effect might be linked to magnetism rather than gravity.


9 posted on 11/10/2007 4:46:00 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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“Temperatures on Earth are but one consequence of these periodic and predictable celestial movements. Others, Dr. Fairbridge has shown, are seen everywhere on Earth: in the various and differing periodicities in rocks, glaciers, sand dunes and the circulation of the ocean; geomagnetic records; the records of the isotopes of carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen in tree rings, ice cores, air and water. They are the periodicities of climate change.”

But..but..the MSM says we’re to blame..they don’t lie do they? And are you saying I shouldn’t believe the Goreacle!!/heavy sarcasm,LOL


11 posted on 11/10/2007 4:47:30 PM PST by PROCON
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12 posted on 11/10/2007 5:00:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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I am wondering, is there, in fact, any conservative left who believes in man caused global warming?


13 posted on 11/10/2007 5:04:24 PM PST by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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In before the Uranus jokes!


16 posted on 11/10/2007 5:16:26 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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The next cool period, if the pattern holds, began in 1996, with the effects to be felt starting in 2010. Some predict three decades of severe cold.

And the stupid eff Algore will claim it's because of Kyoto and government cutting back of economic activity so we'll be going into a period economic hardship with onerous carbon controls on our backs. We can only hope he and the IPCC will be around then for tar and feathering.
22 posted on 11/10/2007 5:32:47 PM PST by aruanan
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The sun's mass is more than 1,000 times that of Jupiter and more than 3,000 times that of Saturn. Uranus and Neptune together have about one-third the mass of Saturn, but because they are so much further away (Uranus is about twice as far out as Saturn, and Neptune about three times as far), their gravitational effect is very small compared to Jupiter's. In short, I don't buy the theory that having several of these planets lined up on the same side of the sun is going to make much of a difference.

Most of the effect would be from Jupiter and Saturn, and so any cycle would be less than 20 years long (Jupiter takes almost 12 earth years for one revolution around the sun, and Saturn takes 29.5 years...it's been a long time since I took algebra or I would work out how long it takes for Jupiter to lap Saturn, but I'd guess somewhere on the order of 18 years).

24 posted on 11/10/2007 5:36:26 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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I don’t believe a word of this. Al Gore is so much smarter than some stupid scientist.


26 posted on 11/10/2007 5:51:09 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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The next cool period, if the pattern holds, began in 1996, with the effects to be felt starting in 2010.

I think the cooling period could start this winter (2007-2008) and continue getting colder in the coming years. NASA was predicting that Solar Cycle 25 would be one of the weakest ever recorded. They predicted this based on some type of plasma belt current speeds near the surface of the sun. The problem is that Solar Cycle 24 was supposed to have already started by now and was initially predicted to be fairly active. This would have given us some solar activity for the next few years. Because Cycle 24 has yet to start and solar activity is still very weak, NASA is lowering the expected activity levels for Solar Cycle 24. This means the cooling expected during Solar Cycle 25 may actually begin this winter.

Also, so we deniers are all hype to the terminology of the believers, there is now a new term. We all know they have changed Global Warming to Climate Change. Well about 2 days ago the former governor of Kalifornia, Jerry MoonBeam Brown, actually referred to it as Climate Disruption.

35 posted on 11/10/2007 6:22:08 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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"The sun's own orbit, he found, has eight characteristic patterns, all determined by Jupiter's position relative to Saturn, with the other planets playing much lesser roles"

What is it again that the sun is orbiting around? The Milky Way? I missed that first time thru.

37 posted on 11/10/2007 6:38:42 PM PST by matthew fuller (Crop-circles, killer rabbits and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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The alignment of the planets, and especially that of Jupiter and Saturn, control the climate on Earth.

I guess it's time to move the horoscopes to the weather page!

-PJ

38 posted on 11/10/2007 6:42:41 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Reform Canada

Sounds a lot more logical than most claims!


41 posted on 11/10/2007 7:11:08 PM PST by Chili Girl
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Smart guy this Dr Fairbridge. If there is a strong correlation between sunspot cycles, relative to the Sun’s orbit about the Universes center mass, with Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars going along for that ride that would go a long way toward explaining the Vostok Ice Core data and todays concurrent warming on Mars.


43 posted on 11/10/2007 7:57:01 PM PST by jwalsh07
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The alignment of the planets, and especially that of Jupiter and Saturn, control the climate on Earth.

INFADEL!

72 posted on 11/12/2007 4:36:49 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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When Uranus, Neptune and especially Saturn -- the next largest planet -- join Jupiter on one side of the solar system, the solar system's centre of gravity shifts well beyond the sun.

Given the relative mass of the Sun and the planets this really smells of bullsh#t.
79 posted on 11/13/2007 7:56:16 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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“The next cool period, if the pattern holds, began in 1996, with the effects to be felt starting in 2010. Some predict three decades of severe cold.”

Two years ago some Russian scientists came to the same conclusion. Their prediction is that global cooling will begin in 2012.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060825/53143686.html


82 posted on 11/13/2007 4:08:05 PM PST by chessplayer
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This applies here somehow:

This is the excellent foppery of the world, that when we are sick in fortune (often the surfeits of our own behaviour) we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the moon, and stars: as if we were villains on necessity; fools by heavenly compulsion; knaves, thieves, and treacherous by spherical predominance; drunkards, liars, and adulterers by an enforced obedience of planetary influence; and all that we are evil in, by a divine thrusting on. An admirable evasion of whoremaster man, to lay his goatish disposition on the charge of a star!

WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, King Lear

92 posted on 11/14/2007 4:31:39 PM PST by Plutarch
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