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Climate change by Jupiter
Financial Post | Saturday, November 10, 2007 | Lawrence Solomon

Posted on 11/10/2007 4:33:13 PM PST by Reform Canada

Climate change by Jupiter

Lawrence Solomon Financial Post

Saturday, November 10, 2007

The alignment of the planets, and especially that of Jupiter and Saturn, control the climate on Earth.

So explained Rhodes Fairbridge of Columbia University, a giant in science over much of the last century whose accomplishments are perhaps unsurpassed for their breadth, depth, and volume. This one man authored or co-authored 100 scientific books and more than 1,000 scientific papers, he edited the Benchmarks in Geology series (more than 90 volumes in print) and was general editor of the Encyclopaedias of the Earth Sciences. He edited eight major encyclopedias of specialized scientific papers in the atmospheric sciences and astrogeology; geomorphology; geochemistry and the earth sciences; geology, sedimentology, paleontology, oceanography and, not least, climatology.

Changes in sunspots and other solar activity, scientists have realized for more than two centuries, correlate closely with the climate of Earth, explaining the ice ages and periods of great warming. But what, Dr. Fairbridge wondered, causes these changes in our sun?

The answer, he discovered with the help of NASA and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, lies largely in the solar system's centre of gravity. At times, the sun is at the solar system's centre of gravity. Most often, this is not the case-- the orbit of the planets will align planets to one side or another of the sun. Jupiter, the planet with by far the largest mass, most influences the solar system's centre of gravity. When Uranus, Neptune and especially Saturn -- the next largest planet -- join Jupiter on one side of the solar system, the solar system's centre of gravity shifts well beyond the sun.

The sun's own orbit, he found, has eight characteristic patterns, all determined by Jupiter's position relative to Saturn, with the other planets playing much lesser roles. Some of these eight have orderly orbits, smooth and near-circular. During such orbits, solar activity is high and Earth heats up. Some of the eight orbits are chaotic, taking a loop-the-loop path. These orbits correspond to quiet times for the sun, and cool periods on Earth. Every 179 years or so, the sun embarks on a new cycle of orbits. One of the cooler periods in recent centuries was the Little Ice Age of the 17th century, when the Thames River in London froze over each winter. The next cool period, if the pattern holds, began in 1996, with the effects to be felt starting in 2010. Some predict three decades of severe cold.

Temperatures on Earth are but one consequence of these periodic and predictable celestial movements. Others, Dr. Fairbridge has shown, are seen everywhere on Earth: in the various and differing periodicities in rocks, glaciers, sand dunes and the circulation of the ocean; geomagnetic records; the records of the isotopes of carbon, oxygen, and hydrogen in tree rings, ice cores, air and water. They are the periodicities of climate change.

Dr. Fairbridge's best-known periodicity, which he developed in the 1950s, hypothesized that sea levels had been rising for the last 16,000 years, during which there were periodic oscillations of rise and fall. The Fairbridge curve describing this period -- so named in derision because it offended the conventional wisdom - is now widely accepted. It demonstrates that, even within the past 1,000 years, sea levels have several times changed by up to two metres, and suddenly -- each of these large changes occurred in fewer than 40 years.

Dr. Fairbridge's broader climate change claims -- that celestial changes control Earth's temperatures -- remain controversial, but less so than they were decades ago, when his was a relatively lone voice. Solar scientists with increasing regularity are publishing data establishing celestial origins to climate change on Earth. Dr. Fairbridge saw his Fairbridgecurve theories vindicated, but he won't his celestial claims. This most remarkable individual died a year ago this week, at age 92. - Lawrence Solomon is executive director of Energy Probe and the Urban Renaissance Institute. www.urban-renaissance.org

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CV OF A DENIER

Rhodes Fairbridge, an early expert on climate change, was a professor of geology at Columbia. He received an undergraduate degree from Queen's University in Ontario and a master's degree from the University of Oxford. He was awarded a doctorate of science by the University of Western Australia in 1944 at the age of 30, bypassing the usual PhD prerequisite. During the Second World War, Dr. Fairbridge also served with the Royal Australian Air Force in U.S. General Douglas MacArthur's headquarters as deputy director of intelligence. © National Post 2007


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; catastrophism; climatechange; fairbridge; globalwarming; ipcc; jupiter; kyoto; lawrencesolomon; nasa
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To: samtheman
Yes! It's a word that sings to me!

"There's a whole lotta Doomage goin' down, goin' down, there's a whole lotta Doomage goin' down..."

21 posted on 11/10/2007 5:32:18 PM PST by Max in Utah (If your neighbors habitually trespassed, wouldn't you want a nice tall fence with razor wire on top?)
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To: Reform Canada
The next cool period, if the pattern holds, began in 1996, with the effects to be felt starting in 2010. Some predict three decades of severe cold.

And the stupid eff Algore will claim it's because of Kyoto and government cutting back of economic activity so we'll be going into a period economic hardship with onerous carbon controls on our backs. We can only hope he and the IPCC will be around then for tar and feathering.
22 posted on 11/10/2007 5:32:47 PM PST by aruanan
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To: dr_lew
This is full-blown crackpottery. If you’re down to throwing this kind of stuff up against the global warming juggernaut, you’re finished.

That was totally knee-jerk, right?
23 posted on 11/10/2007 5:34:45 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Reform Canada
The sun's mass is more than 1,000 times that of Jupiter and more than 3,000 times that of Saturn. Uranus and Neptune together have about one-third the mass of Saturn, but because they are so much further away (Uranus is about twice as far out as Saturn, and Neptune about three times as far), their gravitational effect is very small compared to Jupiter's. In short, I don't buy the theory that having several of these planets lined up on the same side of the sun is going to make much of a difference.

Most of the effect would be from Jupiter and Saturn, and so any cycle would be less than 20 years long (Jupiter takes almost 12 earth years for one revolution around the sun, and Saturn takes 29.5 years...it's been a long time since I took algebra or I would work out how long it takes for Jupiter to lap Saturn, but I'd guess somewhere on the order of 18 years).

24 posted on 11/10/2007 5:36:26 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: dr_lew
This is full-blown crackpottery

Really? Does that mean you've don't believe in the fabled neap tide?

25 posted on 11/10/2007 5:36:44 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: Reform Canada

I don’t believe a word of this. Al Gore is so much smarter than some stupid scientist.


26 posted on 11/10/2007 5:51:09 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Yes, it’s a brilliant article that brings into account science that has yet to be fully examined by the UN IPCC and the MSM, “DUH”. Sir, I am not a scientist nor a highly degreed individual, I can only rely on my God given common sense and the non-biased history to wit I was schooled in.

But having said that, I believe that all our current Laws of Physics, etc and this new revelation will hopefully and finally dispell all this Globull Warming Cr@p.

FReegards


27 posted on 11/10/2007 5:51:38 PM PST by PROCON
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To: Verginius Rufus

‘In short, I don’t buy the theory that having several of these planets lined up on the same side of the sun is going to make much of a difference. ‘

having not seen the math the article refers to to support this i can only speculate on what he actualy wrote, but if we are talking about a total change of global temperature range of a very small number of degrees celsius avg temperature (5?) between, say, the present and a recent cool period (say the referenced 17th cetury cold period), that isn’t much of a difference either.

because of the very narrow temperature range our species and many species we depend on need to survive, and the proximity to the freezing point of water, we notice it, but really its more of a rounding error in a cosmic view

just tossing this out there, but maybe very small variations in the gravity triangle of the sun and the larger planets would have very small impact on the sunspot activity referenced and thus a very small impact on earth temperatures.

also would offer that this man was apparently absolutely brilliant, and i would far sooner doubt the author of the article if something is in question before doubting the scientist’s actual work (which i have not seen).


28 posted on 11/10/2007 6:02:48 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Army Air Corps
Thabks to this article, I have the “Age of Aquarius” playing in my head. Arrrrggghhh!

Well, that's only because the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter's aligned with Mars . . .

29 posted on 11/10/2007 6:04:46 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
It’s more complex than just adding their respective orbits - since the tidal effects work at half-periods (Jupiter opposite Saturn), plus the combined pull of the closer (faster) smaller planets sometimes adds to the effect of the big two, sometimes subtracting from it.

The sum of many periodic equations yields very, very odd results depending on what periodicities you start with: you can get a square wave (a result with a flat top, very rapid changes to the opposite sign, then another flat period) simply by adding simple-appearing sine and cosine waves, or get a long periodicity, or an amplified shorter wave.

The math is nasty (last time I had was in control theory classes with Fourier series and Fourier Transforms, Laplace equations, etc.) but - you’ll have to trust me on this one - periodic waves can definitely add up to the 1500 year global cooling/warming cycles we see world-wide.

Particularly if you add that cycle to the earth’s much longer 25,000 year rotational cycles.

(It’s just that Gore, the UN, and the Euro-socialists can’t tax gravity waves for 4 trillion dollars. Yet.)

30 posted on 11/10/2007 6:04:48 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Well, that’s only because the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter’s aligned with Mars . . .
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Well, if that’s the case, why doesn’t peace guide the planets and love steer the stars?


31 posted on 11/10/2007 6:09:50 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

Love is steering the stars, but hate is a loud, obnoxious backseat driver.


32 posted on 11/10/2007 6:12:14 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: samtheman; Max in Utah
That's one hell of a great word! Doomage! I love it!

Yes! It's a word that sings to me!

Forget it!!! The word belongs to me.

I never steal anything.....I mereley appropriate from later members when I choose fit to Log In.

33 posted on 11/10/2007 6:13:15 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Doomage on you)
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To: dr_lew
This is full-blown crackpottery.

Why do you say that?

34 posted on 11/10/2007 6:15:52 PM PST by okie01
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To: Reform Canada
The next cool period, if the pattern holds, began in 1996, with the effects to be felt starting in 2010.

I think the cooling period could start this winter (2007-2008) and continue getting colder in the coming years. NASA was predicting that Solar Cycle 25 would be one of the weakest ever recorded. They predicted this based on some type of plasma belt current speeds near the surface of the sun. The problem is that Solar Cycle 24 was supposed to have already started by now and was initially predicted to be fairly active. This would have given us some solar activity for the next few years. Because Cycle 24 has yet to start and solar activity is still very weak, NASA is lowering the expected activity levels for Solar Cycle 24. This means the cooling expected during Solar Cycle 25 may actually begin this winter.

Also, so we deniers are all hype to the terminology of the believers, there is now a new term. We all know they have changed Global Warming to Climate Change. Well about 2 days ago the former governor of Kalifornia, Jerry MoonBeam Brown, actually referred to it as Climate Disruption.

35 posted on 11/10/2007 6:22:08 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Oops. Cooling period should read as Cooling effects.
36 posted on 11/10/2007 6:23:18 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Reform Canada
"The sun's own orbit, he found, has eight characteristic patterns, all determined by Jupiter's position relative to Saturn, with the other planets playing much lesser roles"

What is it again that the sun is orbiting around? The Milky Way? I missed that first time thru.

37 posted on 11/10/2007 6:38:42 PM PST by matthew fuller (Crop-circles, killer rabbits and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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To: Reform Canada
The alignment of the planets, and especially that of Jupiter and Saturn, control the climate on Earth.

I guess it's time to move the horoscopes to the weather page!

-PJ

38 posted on 11/10/2007 6:42:41 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: matthew fuller
What is it again that the sun is orbiting around? The Milky Way? I missed that first time thru.

Probably need to see his diagrams. Could be the suns orbit around the solar systems changing center of gravity or perhaps orbit was mistranslated and should have been rotation. NASA predicts future Solar Activity based on flow speeds in the suns plasma belts and they could be affected by the suns rotational speed. They could also be affected by gravitational tidal effects similar to the flow of earths oceans. Not too many solids in that hot ball. The suns solar flux might also be affected by magnetic fields within the solar system.

39 posted on 11/10/2007 6:48:56 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: AZLiberty

“Wikipedia says he died a year ago, and provides two references to back it up”

A single death certificate would suffice.


40 posted on 11/10/2007 7:00:24 PM PST by Cold Heart
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