Posted on 11/10/2007 4:33:13 PM PST by Reform Canada
"There's a whole lotta Doomage goin' down, goin' down, there's a whole lotta Doomage goin' down..."
Most of the effect would be from Jupiter and Saturn, and so any cycle would be less than 20 years long (Jupiter takes almost 12 earth years for one revolution around the sun, and Saturn takes 29.5 years...it's been a long time since I took algebra or I would work out how long it takes for Jupiter to lap Saturn, but I'd guess somewhere on the order of 18 years).
Really? Does that mean you've don't believe in the fabled neap tide?
I don’t believe a word of this. Al Gore is so much smarter than some stupid scientist.
Yes, it’s a brilliant article that brings into account science that has yet to be fully examined by the UN IPCC and the MSM, “DUH”. Sir, I am not a scientist nor a highly degreed individual, I can only rely on my God given common sense and the non-biased history to wit I was schooled in.
But having said that, I believe that all our current Laws of Physics, etc and this new revelation will hopefully and finally dispell all this Globull Warming Cr@p.
FReegards
‘In short, I don’t buy the theory that having several of these planets lined up on the same side of the sun is going to make much of a difference. ‘
having not seen the math the article refers to to support this i can only speculate on what he actualy wrote, but if we are talking about a total change of global temperature range of a very small number of degrees celsius avg temperature (5?) between, say, the present and a recent cool period (say the referenced 17th cetury cold period), that isn’t much of a difference either.
because of the very narrow temperature range our species and many species we depend on need to survive, and the proximity to the freezing point of water, we notice it, but really its more of a rounding error in a cosmic view
just tossing this out there, but maybe very small variations in the gravity triangle of the sun and the larger planets would have very small impact on the sunspot activity referenced and thus a very small impact on earth temperatures.
also would offer that this man was apparently absolutely brilliant, and i would far sooner doubt the author of the article if something is in question before doubting the scientist’s actual work (which i have not seen).
Well, that's only because the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter's aligned with Mars . . .
The sum of many periodic equations yields very, very odd results depending on what periodicities you start with: you can get a square wave (a result with a flat top, very rapid changes to the opposite sign, then another flat period) simply by adding simple-appearing sine and cosine waves, or get a long periodicity, or an amplified shorter wave.
The math is nasty (last time I had was in control theory classes with Fourier series and Fourier Transforms, Laplace equations, etc.) but - you’ll have to trust me on this one - periodic waves can definitely add up to the 1500 year global cooling/warming cycles we see world-wide.
Particularly if you add that cycle to the earth’s much longer 25,000 year rotational cycles.
(It’s just that Gore, the UN, and the Euro-socialists can’t tax gravity waves for 4 trillion dollars. Yet.)
Well, that’s only because the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter’s aligned with Mars . . .
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Well, if that’s the case, why doesn’t peace guide the planets and love steer the stars?
Love is steering the stars, but hate is a loud, obnoxious backseat driver.
Yes! It's a word that sings to me!
Forget it!!! The word belongs to me.
I never steal anything.....I mereley appropriate from later members when I choose fit to Log In.
Why do you say that?
I think the cooling period could start this winter (2007-2008) and continue getting colder in the coming years. NASA was predicting that Solar Cycle 25 would be one of the weakest ever recorded. They predicted this based on some type of plasma belt current speeds near the surface of the sun. The problem is that Solar Cycle 24 was supposed to have already started by now and was initially predicted to be fairly active. This would have given us some solar activity for the next few years. Because Cycle 24 has yet to start and solar activity is still very weak, NASA is lowering the expected activity levels for Solar Cycle 24. This means the cooling expected during Solar Cycle 25 may actually begin this winter.
Also, so we deniers are all hype to the terminology of the believers, there is now a new term. We all know they have changed Global Warming to Climate Change. Well about 2 days ago the former governor of Kalifornia, Jerry MoonBeam Brown, actually referred to it as Climate Disruption.
What is it again that the sun is orbiting around? The Milky Way? I missed that first time thru.
I guess it's time to move the horoscopes to the weather page!
-PJ
Probably need to see his diagrams. Could be the suns orbit around the solar systems changing center of gravity or perhaps orbit was mistranslated and should have been rotation. NASA predicts future Solar Activity based on flow speeds in the suns plasma belts and they could be affected by the suns rotational speed. They could also be affected by gravitational tidal effects similar to the flow of earths oceans. Not too many solids in that hot ball. The suns solar flux might also be affected by magnetic fields within the solar system.
“Wikipedia says he died a year ago, and provides two references to back it up”
A single death certificate would suffice.
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